Editor’s note: The following story was submitted by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Greenfern.” It is a classic story of sociopathic seduction.
When I first met the S, I was very young, 22, and in a pretty bad spot. I come from a broken, abusive family and I have been pretty much on my own since 16. I was managing by putting myself through college, working full time, step by step. A year before I met the S, I was hit by a car and the recovery from that sent me into a depression and hardship. I had no family support or insurance, so I pulled myself up by the bootstraps and tried not falling behind. I felt alone and struggling, but managed. I feel like I was a strong young person considering the circumstances.
Then the S appeared in my life. He was my TA at school. As it turns out he later told me that he had been observing me for over a year, but I was acting “stand offish” and “unapproachable” so he had difficulties getting to know me. So I guess when I hit the bottom after my accident I have become more approachable in his eyes and he pursued me.
Constant care and attention
He courted me very intensely, I felt off guard, like a deer in the headlight. He came across as this very dignified, old fashioned (he was only 28) gentleman with strong interest in my background. He kept asking if I needed help in my school work and brought me sandwiches and kept coming and coming at me. I felt strange, but I was flattered by the constant care and attention. Inside myself I felt weird, it did not feel right. But then I dismissed my own discomfort. I told myself “maybe I just need to relax and accept the attention and kindness”. I think at the time I have isolated myself from people and had little trust in myself being liked for who I was.
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I told myself that maybe it was time to open up to people and receive. The problem with this was that I made the wrong choice of person to open up to.
He kept pursuing me harder, showering me with gifts and sweet little notes. He even branded my name into his arm. That should have been a big red flag. In fact when he showed me my name burned into his skin, I felt physically ill to my stomach and had a rising panic within me.
He wanted to hang out at all times. I felt like I had no time to myself at all. I kept telling him that I needed to do stuff on my own, but he replied to that by asking if he could come over after I do that thing. He wore me down with persistence and I did not say no. I did not know how to say no.
Phony clowns and bozos
Before I knew it, we were hanging out all the time. He told me about his problems with his parents, he made preachy speeches about the phoniness and hypocrisy of the world. He told me that now it’s us against the world and to “f___ the phony clowns and bozos of the world.” He convinced me to let him shave my head for a home movie. He told me that I was a mess and he will take care of me. He had me help him with his projects, including these films where he dressed me up as a boy wearing leg braces. He would pretty much decide when to eat and sleep. Many times I wanted to sleep at night, but he was asking for more.
In the same time he put me on this special pedestal, told me that I was the one for him and that I made him a better man. He said I was very special, he loved me, I was his best friend. He said we were meant for each other. He always asked if I was “the one” for him. I just could not say yes. I think this made him angry, but he would not say.
Completely suffocated
We moved in together, I have cut off my friends and social life. The S and I were doing EVERYTHING together. I felt completely suffocated, yet I could not even be clear to myself as to what was wrong exactly. I would have crying spells and could not put in words what was wrong. He delivered these little pep-talks about being strong and not caring about what the world says.
He took over many things in the household. Even though I was perfectly capable of doing those things, I have always managed previous to meeting the S. When I would do these things, he always made me feel like he could do them better; he would take them out of my hand. Slowly but surely he would be doing all these “favors” then make me feel like I owed him. He got mad at me because I did not say “I love you” enough in response to his million “I love yous” during the week. I did not love him. I dreamed of some miracle happening, so I could get away out of the relationship. I had fantasies of him just going away. The idea of me ending the relationship filled me with dread, dread to his response. I felt like I owed to him to stay with him. He always said “I saved you, you were a mess when I met you” then following it up with “I love you”.
He would go through the garbage to see what I was doing on my day off and I am pretty sure he was monitoring me, even though I have no proof. He grew marijuana and collected toy guns in his special room. He also hoarded his own urine in soda bottles. According to him, he was too busy with his projects to go to the bathroom. Gradually he has become too busy with his art projects to have time for me. He stopped initiating sex. When I wanted to talk to him about the sex issue, he shot it down with “sex is WAAAAY over-rated” or “what do you want me to do about it?”
I wanted to feel the way he made me feel in the beginning, but I did not understand why he took me off the pedestal. In the beginning he would want to have sex multiple times a day, but now he did not even want to hear about it at all. I did not understand what happened.
More and more criticism
At this time he started criticize me on small things. For instance on my grammar. English is not my first language, so I felt sensitive to the issue. He said I was sloppy in my language.
Then more and more criticism has arrived, and he has become more and more withdrawn, physically and emotionally. He refused to have any discussions about the relationship. He said I was the one who had a problem with the relationship. He also told me that his friends were surprised that he did not have a younger and prettier girlfriend.
I think what was the beginning of the end is that I got a good job that I liked, made me feel good. I think it really gave me confidence to stand up for myself more. I started pointing out some of his BS, yet I was not feeling strong enough to break up with him, even though I wanted to.
Bringing home a drunken girl
On our 7th year anniversary night he told me he would be home by 8 pm, so we could spend some time together. He came home at 4 am with a drunk girl, laughing. The girl was one of his students. He was offended that I thought that there was anything weird about the situation. I was livid. I felt like my world collapsed. He showed up with flowers the next day.
Then not much after that, we had a Thanksgiving party where he acted like a total ass. Then he broke up with me the next day.
He was was unfazed and calm. He combed through all of our stuff to make sure he took everything he felt a right to. He went about with complete calmness, purchasing new bedsheets for his new place. Completely cold. He told me that he was now seeing a therapist and he thinks he is pretty depressed. For the last 3 years I was BEGGING him to see a therapist. He would not even talk about it. But I think this was just an act. Later I found out that he was cheating on me for the last year and a half with the woman he married not much after we split up.
I have been in therapy for a while now. I realize that those years I lived in a complete lie and I chose to be blind to it. My task is to recognize that blind spot and protect myself from Sociopaths like him. I’m a work in progress.
Please if you are out there involved with a sociopath, trust your intuition!
Lovefraud originally posted this letter on Jan. 26, 2009.
winning.
such a blessed word in the realm of spath-hole healing.
screwed.
it’s their middle names. they know how to do it inside-out, outside-in, backward, forward and upside down … emotionally, physically, financially and otherwise.
incredible.
Oxy– Your story is pretty amazing. Thank you so much for your support.
Lostingrief– how well we can relate– no fam thing. I want to go back to school. How can do this with no job/money? Wish there were a scholarship for Sociopath Survivors.
ya’ll support means the world. I am acting like a shut in. I am afraid to even go to the store/anxiety.
Love you all and Oxy– I will believe YOU about God right now.
HH: mine couldn’t believe i threw him out either. after he told me about prego gf and i told him to leave and never come back, he had a curious look on his face and said: ”i had no intention of leaving you for her!”
my jaw dropped! he ACTUALLY thought that he would stay with his wife, have a baby with the new gf, AND still have me! with cojones THAT big, how does he walk?!
akitameg:
take a deep breath.
healing takes time. don’t try to make any major decisions until you’re feeling better. i’m back in school working on my masters through a ‘become a teacher’ program. it’s the hardest thing i ever did and the pay is crap.
but i have to do something to live. to survive. the ex-spathhole promised to take care of me when i lost my job. he sure has a funny way of following through on that.
him: “let’s see: con her out of her money, letting her think i’m using it to disengage myself from my other relationship(s) and THEN leave her for someone half her age. yea, that’ll work.”
he got what he got out of me. but i can move on only in the knowing that he gets NO more. not even the right to hear my voice.
towanda!
I read somewhere that the place where S’s are actually “psychotic” is what they think other people will be willing to forgive.
And although this didn’t happen, because I am an honest, faithful, person, I wonder what he would have done if he found out I cheated on him. Would that have been quickly forgiven? He flew into an unbelievable jealous rage when he found out (because I told him) that I had grabbed a drink & appetizers after work with two married male colleagues. Both of whom were white-haired gents 20+ years older than me. The three of us had one drink and then every one went home to their partners. There was nothing the least bit sexually charged about our hour and a half together. Yet the ex flew into an amazing rage about me “cheating on him with other men.” I actually thought he was going to hit me – and I’ve never been hit by a man before. He was so enraged – I had never seen anyone this angry before. This was really the beginning of the end for me as I knew he was crazy at this point.
Anyway – I wonder if he would have raged, but then forgiven and forgotten, if I had slept with other men. I hear they don’t take things personally, and don’t hold grudges. Is that possible?
i dunno.
my experience was that my ex would have ”instantly left me” if i was ever unfaithful. every monday when he’d come back to me after being with his wife and kids on the weekend, he’d accuse me of cheating. but since everything they say is a projection, he was only saying that because HE was cheating. when we broke up, he immediately called his male friends who were close to me and told them to NEVER see me or talk to me again. and they haven’t. i know he did that because he was worried they would make a play for me, or that i would get back at him by sleeping with them.
what an idiot. i never even SPOKE to another guy in any flirtatious way the entire time i was with him. never even thought about cheating.
i don’t think a spath would forgive infidelity. women are possessions to them, and a tainted possession isn’t worth having when you can just go out and get a shiny new model.
That’s what I thought, too. But I think he did have girlfriends who were married…..and hence he was “sharing” them with their husbands. And his ex-wife had two boyfriends since they separated, and he still pursued her for sex. I always thought he would go berserk if I cheated…..but now I wonder if he would have gone berserk….but then taken me back. I never tested that theory because its just not who I am. But I do wonder.
Does you ex S wife just accept the situation? Does she know that he has girlfriend(s), at least one of which is pregnant? What’s up with that woman?
she’s completely dependent on him for … everything.
she doesn’t drive, doesn’t work, only has a high school education, two kids with him, etc. she knows he’s a pig, and she does her share of bitching, but she’s also in deep denial. he has her completely twisted, too. throws her enough crumbs to keep her quiet, and has her in a nice house 100 miles from his job!
i mean, the guy LIVED with me three or four days out of the week. he once called her from my land line so my number showed. she knew about me for YEARS, but he would always tell her some story. i lived out of state, i was too old for him, i was married, i was a lesbian (not even kidding!) he would call her around 10 at night, then she couldn’t EVER reach him after that because he would just turn his cell phone off. how could she NOT know.
i know he treated her worse than me. but all she has is her life with him and her kids. i feel sorry for her and one night cried and apologized to her through the ether. no matter what kind of woman she is, ultimately she’s a bigger victim of him than i am. i was with him first and would NEVER have been with him had he been married when i met him. and we weren’t together when he met her and had a kid. he was calling me, crying, telling me he didn’t want to have a baby with her. and he STILL doesn’t know how to use a condom!
what a jerk!
That sounds a lot like my ex S’s ex-wife. She had only a high school education, had a baby when she was a teenager, and really had very little in terms of prospects for a job or a man. I wonder sometimes if my Ex S chose her BECAUSE of those factors. Like he knew that she would be easier to jerk around and less likely to complain. I don’t know how on earth she put up with his abuse and repeated betrayals…but she did, and still wants him. She had two kids with him (after they were together for a long time and she took a lot of really poor treatment from him), and has not moved on. She lets him come in and out of her house at his leisure. It’s ideal for him. He “drops by” for a couple of hours each day, plays Wii with the kids, let’s her cook for him, and then leaves to go out with other women. I can’t believe she puts up with that. Maybe she doesn’t see any other choices.
I want to call her a loser and pathetic, but then again, I had A LOT going for me, and I still got pulled into his ludicrous web. And stayed for far too long. Granted I did get out, but I did let him play me for a while.
Mosy of us are very upset at ourselves for having dealt with these sociopaths. I thought I’d put together a list of reasons I can pat myself on the back nevertheless, hopefully for some of you as well:
– I always called him on all of his lying and conniving behaviours, so he knew I knew who he was, which made it MORE difficult for him to manipulate me
– I never lent him a penny, despite his many attempts at asking me
– I told him I knew he had other women, and that he wasn’t fooling me (which took a way a little of the satisfaction for him)
– I let him know I built a Police file on him, which I did
– I never let him take financial advantage of me, always telling him to bring food and wine over if he was visiting me
– In the last stages of our relationship, I only saw him when it “made sense” for me
– I’m the one who broke up with him in the end, cold turkey, and the look on his face was Total Surprise
– Blocked out of every mode of communication since….Silence is golden and revenge sweet….
These are some comforts in retrospect for the other emotional damage they have caused us….