Editor’s note: The following story was submitted by the Lovefraud reader who posts as “Greenfern.” It is a classic story of sociopathic seduction.
When I first met the S, I was very young, 22, and in a pretty bad spot. I come from a broken, abusive family and I have been pretty much on my own since 16. I was managing by putting myself through college, working full time, step by step. A year before I met the S, I was hit by a car and the recovery from that sent me into a depression and hardship. I had no family support or insurance, so I pulled myself up by the bootstraps and tried not falling behind. I felt alone and struggling, but managed. I feel like I was a strong young person considering the circumstances.
Then the S appeared in my life. He was my TA at school. As it turns out he later told me that he had been observing me for over a year, but I was acting “stand offish” and “unapproachable” so he had difficulties getting to know me. So I guess when I hit the bottom after my accident I have become more approachable in his eyes and he pursued me.
Constant care and attention
He courted me very intensely, I felt off guard, like a deer in the headlight. He came across as this very dignified, old fashioned (he was only 28) gentleman with strong interest in my background. He kept asking if I needed help in my school work and brought me sandwiches and kept coming and coming at me. I felt strange, but I was flattered by the constant care and attention. Inside myself I felt weird, it did not feel right. But then I dismissed my own discomfort. I told myself “maybe I just need to relax and accept the attention and kindness”. I think at the time I have isolated myself from people and had little trust in myself being liked for who I was.
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I told myself that maybe it was time to open up to people and receive. The problem with this was that I made the wrong choice of person to open up to.
He kept pursuing me harder, showering me with gifts and sweet little notes. He even branded my name into his arm. That should have been a big red flag. In fact when he showed me my name burned into his skin, I felt physically ill to my stomach and had a rising panic within me.
He wanted to hang out at all times. I felt like I had no time to myself at all. I kept telling him that I needed to do stuff on my own, but he replied to that by asking if he could come over after I do that thing. He wore me down with persistence and I did not say no. I did not know how to say no.
Phony clowns and bozos
Before I knew it, we were hanging out all the time. He told me about his problems with his parents, he made preachy speeches about the phoniness and hypocrisy of the world. He told me that now it’s us against the world and to “f___ the phony clowns and bozos of the world.” He convinced me to let him shave my head for a home movie. He told me that I was a mess and he will take care of me. He had me help him with his projects, including these films where he dressed me up as a boy wearing leg braces. He would pretty much decide when to eat and sleep. Many times I wanted to sleep at night, but he was asking for more.
In the same time he put me on this special pedestal, told me that I was the one for him and that I made him a better man. He said I was very special, he loved me, I was his best friend. He said we were meant for each other. He always asked if I was “the one” for him. I just could not say yes. I think this made him angry, but he would not say.
Completely suffocated
We moved in together, I have cut off my friends and social life. The S and I were doing EVERYTHING together. I felt completely suffocated, yet I could not even be clear to myself as to what was wrong exactly. I would have crying spells and could not put in words what was wrong. He delivered these little pep-talks about being strong and not caring about what the world says.
He took over many things in the household. Even though I was perfectly capable of doing those things, I have always managed previous to meeting the S. When I would do these things, he always made me feel like he could do them better; he would take them out of my hand. Slowly but surely he would be doing all these “favors” then make me feel like I owed him. He got mad at me because I did not say “I love you” enough in response to his million “I love yous” during the week. I did not love him. I dreamed of some miracle happening, so I could get away out of the relationship. I had fantasies of him just going away. The idea of me ending the relationship filled me with dread, dread to his response. I felt like I owed to him to stay with him. He always said “I saved you, you were a mess when I met you” then following it up with “I love you”.
He would go through the garbage to see what I was doing on my day off and I am pretty sure he was monitoring me, even though I have no proof. He grew marijuana and collected toy guns in his special room. He also hoarded his own urine in soda bottles. According to him, he was too busy with his projects to go to the bathroom. Gradually he has become too busy with his art projects to have time for me. He stopped initiating sex. When I wanted to talk to him about the sex issue, he shot it down with “sex is WAAAAY over-rated” or “what do you want me to do about it?”
I wanted to feel the way he made me feel in the beginning, but I did not understand why he took me off the pedestal. In the beginning he would want to have sex multiple times a day, but now he did not even want to hear about it at all. I did not understand what happened.
More and more criticism
At this time he started criticize me on small things. For instance on my grammar. English is not my first language, so I felt sensitive to the issue. He said I was sloppy in my language.
Then more and more criticism has arrived, and he has become more and more withdrawn, physically and emotionally. He refused to have any discussions about the relationship. He said I was the one who had a problem with the relationship. He also told me that his friends were surprised that he did not have a younger and prettier girlfriend.
I think what was the beginning of the end is that I got a good job that I liked, made me feel good. I think it really gave me confidence to stand up for myself more. I started pointing out some of his BS, yet I was not feeling strong enough to break up with him, even though I wanted to.
Bringing home a drunken girl
On our 7th year anniversary night he told me he would be home by 8 pm, so we could spend some time together. He came home at 4 am with a drunk girl, laughing. The girl was one of his students. He was offended that I thought that there was anything weird about the situation. I was livid. I felt like my world collapsed. He showed up with flowers the next day.
Then not much after that, we had a Thanksgiving party where he acted like a total ass. Then he broke up with me the next day.
He was was unfazed and calm. He combed through all of our stuff to make sure he took everything he felt a right to. He went about with complete calmness, purchasing new bedsheets for his new place. Completely cold. He told me that he was now seeing a therapist and he thinks he is pretty depressed. For the last 3 years I was BEGGING him to see a therapist. He would not even talk about it. But I think this was just an act. Later I found out that he was cheating on me for the last year and a half with the woman he married not much after we split up.
I have been in therapy for a while now. I realize that those years I lived in a complete lie and I chose to be blind to it. My task is to recognize that blind spot and protect myself from Sociopaths like him. I’m a work in progress.
Please if you are out there involved with a sociopath, trust your intuition!
Lovefraud originally posted this letter on Jan. 26, 2009.
OxDrover and Matt..thanks..I think the calm before the storm theory is probably right. You were right, i rang the family county court today and there are no casesl listted regarding the children, so yes he is lying…The longer he leaves it the more I see he still thinks I will give in and that he doesnt need to go to court..he is in for a big supris ebecause hell nor high water is going to shift me.
It also goes in my favour if he ever does take it to court, because I wil pint out how long he left it and in that time they have not had any contact with him.
I had a bit of time busying myself hence my absence, but I felt I needed to remind myself and came back for more wisdom and strentgh..this site has probably saved my life as in I am no longer living in fear and driving myself mad trying to understand it all. Now i get on with what i have to do and enjoy the peace.
Dear Muldoon,
The more you read and learn about the psychopaths, and how they think, and also learn what it is about us (victims) that makes us want to believe them, that drives us crazy trying to make sense out of the chaos, the quicker you will heal and become stronger.
You have already done really well for the short time you have been looking this problem square in the face. You are no longer LIVING IN TERROR, because you have some idea what kind of monster you are facing. Facing an “unknown” monster is a lot worse than facing one that we “know” what it is.
Of course he will probably pull some new tricks out of his bag, but you will be prepared and not so frightened. That FEAR is what keeps us in an emotional uproar where we can’t think or see what is REALLY going on with them because we are terrified and frozen like a deer in the headlights of a car on a dark night. We just stand there while they hit us head on.
You are learning now to ACT rather than RE-act and that is great. you are reclaiming some of your power and strength. They only have the power that we GIVE them, and when we are determined to TAKE IT BACK and act with logic we can do so. GOOD GOING GAL!!!! Your life will not immediately become “wonderful” or all you could desire, but you are on the road to healing and this is the first BIG and wonderful step.
There will still be a few pot holes, but at least you have taken the hardest steps of all—to disengage from this man-beast that has been in your life and turned it upside down.
Now YOU are in control of your life and you sure as heck don’t need him or anyone else to control it for you! You can drive your own life. ((((hugs)))))
Eliza, from your posts I can see you are in a place that I was in once upon a time with my ex S. You know the truth, but you just really can’t believe anyone is really like your guy really is.
Well, believe it. Trust your gut. You are perhaps addicted to him and what he dishes out; I was addicted to mine. The drama that these guys (or gals) add to our lives makes us feel alive, until the time they make us feel buried alive. When it’s good, its REAL good; when it’s bad, it’s Hell at best. Give it a long enough time, and you will feel buried alive emotionally and forget what truth is.
You know the excuses and stories he tells aren’t true, and they also aren’t outright lies. One thing I found about S’s and P’s is that they will claim they don’t lie; however, they omit information and refuse to consider that lies of omision are indeed lies.
My ex-S loved it when I’d go acting crazy because at times I did act crazy because what he said and what he did were two entirely opposite things, and I didn’t want to believe what I knew was true. I know he made me out to be the crazy person in the relationship to his co-workers and friends (he really didn’t have any friends – only long distance friends that would buy into his lies since they weren’t present to witness his actions). I was provoked into behavior on my part that to this day I ask “where did my rage come from?”; It got to the point in our relationship that I doubted my sanity and thought I must really be crazy, until he pulled one of his drunken rage fits in front of my family and friends where he ended up calling me and my daughters (who weren’t even present) every foul name in the book. We separated and yet I was hopeful we would reconcile! How’s that for addiction! I know in my heart that had my family and friends not witnessed his behavior on that occasion I probably would have stayed in the relationship longer. I understand that addiction.
Keeping away from him may be hard to do at first, but it gets easier with time. Fortunately for me, while my X-S was continuing to lie to me about wanting to get his act together and be with me, he started another relationship and I found out about it and confronted him with that knowledge. The rage he exhibited toward me still hurt, but thankfully I finally “got it” and vowed to never have anything to do with him again.
It may take something very dramatic to make you see how harmful this addiction is but it will be healthier for you if you cut him out of your life totally – No Contact Rule – before something very dramatic and bad happens. These S’s know how to provoke and if you take the bait and act “badly” (read: normal for the situation) they’ll use it against you to keep you in your place and keep the abuse toward you going on, and blame it on you. Remember, they’re always the victim and they play that part oh so well.
Please keep coming here because you are truly among folk who totally understand what you are going through.
Dear Eliza,
These people are extremely crafty…you may think they are gone forever, but out of the clear blue sky (when they think you need a fix, or when tye figure they’ve punished you enough by not calling), they will reappear, and believe me, they will have thought of their approach and strategy…whether it is:
-to have a coffee as friends
– to explain how they’ve changed
– to give you back your things
– to give you a gift
– to ask you something
– some other lame excuse…
– all the while sounding incredibly charming, convincing and honest…))
Don’t even grant him that chance. Sociopaths are evil, predatory and conniving individuals – everything they say is a lie, a form of entrapment, and by responding, you are giving them POWER. That power, they had over you enough while they:
– lied everyday
– had sex with numerous other women
– stole things from you
– stole your heart
– never had any intentions of fulfilling your dreams
– used you for whatever thrill of the moment
– impinged on your good nature
– as a result, screwed with your head for a good long time….
I am SO happy to have thrown that scoundrel out, and I got my revenge (after 2 years of being duped, although I knew it from the start) by telling him I had met someone else (not true).
Whatever works.
Sociofree-
I was just looking at the list
-going out to coffee as friends-
I cringe thinking back; after the S walked out on me I(!) was the one that contacted him a few times, asked coffee with him as a friend. He acted like I was the psycho girl. He owed me money, so I called him about that too, but more because I just could not wrap my head around the idea as to how cold and calculating he called it quits. How he just refused to talk to me, living with him for 7 years didn’t even matter. All I got was just a smirk and a bothered look on his face.
I was begging him to see a therapist while he was pulling all these awful head-games like bringing his female students home in the middle of the night and such.
Then one day he just said he was too depressed to continue the relationship. As I found out he was already with the woman he would marry later. Now thinking back I saw myself spinning out of control, trying to get closure from him as he sat there like a reptile refusing to talk about anything. Then one day (after 3 attempts) I decided no more contact EVER. A year later I get this sickly sweet b-day card. It was rather creepy. I never replied.
Thinking back I think the S was trying to make me look like the sociopath, poiting out my broken state whenever he could.
Greenfern,
Socios always owe money, and never quite pay it up…
– are always pleading being broke
– don’t have a credit card
– forgot their wallet
– ask for loans (never got one from me despite numerous attempts at it…)
– never take you out to dinner, unless they have no choice etc…
– rarely give you gifts, unless it is in their momentary interest
– are always on the take (for invitations, dinners at your house etc..)
– get upset when you ask them for your due
– have physical trouble parting with their money
– may actually steal money from your wallet, bit by bit
– are just extremely cheap )looking for money in meters, looking for freebies all over the place, looking to mooch off everything amd everybody in site etc…
Yet another list of terrible attributes…
Akitameg – thank you for the compliments. And, if I sound smart, its because I have paid a lot of attention to what the other folks have said on LF. And in blogging with them, its really helped me clarify my own thoughts.
You should blog. Please don’t worry about being “a downer.” All of us were shamed for our negative emotions during the relationship, and told we were “downers,” “whiners,” “needy,” “crazy,” and we get conditioned to think that’s true. It’s not true, A, and this is a place where you SHOULD share you pain. We welcome it – we understand it. And, believe it or not, your pain is helpful. It allows us to reflect on our own experience, comfort you, and comfort ourselves in the process. Un-shame yourself! Please share.
As for “love” in the relationship with him. I did love him – it was love. I loved him very much. I thought he loved me – no, I was certain that he loved me. I was never more certain of any love in my life. And that’s one of the many reasons it was so devastating when he ripped it away.
It certainly looked like love from him in the first months – but it wasn’t. They can’t love. If he really did love you, he NEVER would have done what he did to you. Never. He didn’t love – he was high on sex, power, and attachment, but it was not love. I still find that hard to believe at times because it felt, so much, like he and I were madly in love. But I think his giddiness was not giddy with love as I was, but giddy with delight in finding a huge new supply source. I think when they first sink their fangs in they are euphoric with the new supply – there’s so much new blood for them. Then when they drain us they lose the euphoria, and actually get angry at us for no longer being such a rich source of life force for them.
And, yes, there were certainly days when I woke up and thought “maybe he isn’t an S, maybe I am crazy and needy” but those days are very few and far between now. They happened much more when I was with him, and in the first months when I was out. The further away I am, the more I see what a monster he was and how much in a trance I was. His behavior was not only repeatedly unacceptable, it was utterly outrageous.
Time, time, time. And, A, my NC was right in early October, too. It might have been the 4th or 5th. Stars must have been aligned right so that we had the strength to start that day. It’s so hard, isn’t it? I believe we both can do it.
Clarifying my NC sobriety date – I realize I’ve written different dates at different times (though I hardly think anyone is keeping track, just didn’t want to be telling ever-morphing accounts of the past like an S) My attempt at NC started early August, then had a period of leaks in late September, and then NC from early October onward.
Help– I think. I have had NC since Oct. 3rd.
I am in sooo much excruciating pain right now– that I want to call. How could I possibly hurt more than this? I couldn’t– trust me.–
then again– I have nothing to say to him– do wish I could ask him questions.
feedback please.
I hate to wish my life away, but I wish it were three months from now, three months of NC, I long for the distance that time could create.