Editor’s note: Lovefraud received the following letter from the reader who posts as “SocioSibs.” She asks, “what would you do?”
What if you have reason to believe that someone you know is a serious danger to others? You’ve known this person almost all your life, grew up together in the same family.
Until recently, this person had a huge menagerie of animals housed on an acre of land, including a horse, 13 dogs, 5 cats, turkeys & peacocks and possibly a parrot or 2. Yet when she abandoned the property, all but 2 dogs she took with her disappeared in a span of just weeks.
Subsequent to this person’s latest move (one of 25 or so over a half-century), you found a couple of canine carcasses hidden behind a barn and miscellaneous skeletal remains strewn about the former property, which conjured a memory of walking in on this person during very early puberty as she was holding a live wild bird over the bathroom sink with a knife to decapitate it, exclaiming upon the surprise encounter that she couldn’t cure it so was putting the poor creature out of its misery.
Then you locate childhood friends and others from this person’s past, learning that one witnessed her strangling or drowning numerous animals, with that same explanation, since age 12. Another witness tells of repeated torture of animals, including punching & kicking her horse (one of 2 that a boyfriend bought her), savagely beating her dog daily, and crushing the skulls of kittens between her fingers and tossing them out of her car onto the ground, all during her mid-teen years.
You recall visions of her often hitting & kicking family pets, to the horror and pain of her parent and sibling, who tried but never could completely curtail it. And then you find a multitude of accounts from witnesses and public records of this person accusing multiple people of stalking her from age 13 through recent years, along with reports this person has made of others poisoning her plants & pets, some of whom died as a result, which stirs memories of childhood pets that died mysteriously, healthy pets whom this person hypothesized at the time must have been poisoned by neighbors or stalkers.
An ex-spouse reports that when divorce became imminent she cooked him a “special” meal, after which he became quite ill and came down with a severe rash all over his body, never experienced before or since. Concurrently this person was attempting to entice a former lover to relocate half-way across the country, unbeknownst to the would-be-again lover that this person was also accusing him of stalking and threatening to kill her due to his mad obsession.
This person has a now-young-adult offspring who has been plagued by mysterious illnesses since infancy, and ended up in hospital emergency rooms more often than most people who live to ripe old ages. One disease that was actually diagnosed was touted to some as the first case in the state, but she may have had access to the bacteria while a biological science student at a major university in the early 90s (for which someone else paid and from which she did not graduate), prior to the meticulous tracking these days of contagious pathogens. And you hear that her ex-spouse independently came to the same conclusion as you as to how your niece contracted it.
You recollect a tale she told of a male roommate brandishing a knife with the person’s then 10-year-old child present, and another when the child was 12 and sexually molested by someone’s 15-year-old son right in the next room.
You are aware of at least 2 occasions when Child Protective Services were called on this person, but in each case she wriggled out of charges. Then, when you contact CPS yourself to inquire, the intake worker on the other end can’t tell you what, if any, reports there may be that have not resulted in convictions. However, seeing it for himself on the computer screen, he urges you to call protective services in the state where this person’s child now resides, even asking you to hold on while he looks up the phone number for you and stresses that you speak with a supervisor there if you don’t get results during the initial call.
Indeed, other authorities whom you contact say they can’t do anything now that this person is no longer within their jurisdiction, while provoking guilt for your not having done something about her sooner. Some suggest you at least try to do something where she is now, recommending entities to contact, even if it’s too little too late.
This person has vilified anyone who could threaten to expose her, portrays herself as a persecuted, sweet, innocent victim of her targeted victims, has been abusing & killing animals since childhood but has come to be known as an “animal whisperer.” You have evidence that she’s been poisoning animals and possibly humans for years, has been lying & stealing and casting blame on others since early childhood, with a criminal record for larceny since at least turning 18 (juvenile records are sealed), and a felony arson record.
Then you find out that this person has fled to another state, welcomed with open arms by family into a home where a young relative resides, knowing that they implicitly trust and feel very sorry for her, for “all she’s been through.”
What if you, too, have defended, protected, and advocated for this person all through the years, because you, too, have been blinded by the bizarre stories she fabricates and sympathy she so ably elicits? And you staunchly held onto the lifelong belief that every person has a heart. But now you can no longer ignore that truly innocent people actually are, and always have been, in danger.
What if this person, knowing you could blow her cover, preemptively already got deep into the heads of the rest of your family and convinced them that you are crazy and evil and out to get her, even though there’s not a shred of substantiation of her claims, but she’s mastered the art of manipulation and has skillfully succeeded in obliterating your credibility & character?
What if you knew all this and so much more, and this person were still on the loose seriously harming others and getting away with it, invited and naively trusted to be alone around those most vulnerable, such as children and animals? What if, having been the most consistently present over this person’s lifetime, with nobody else recognizing the danger or mustering the courage or possessing comprehensive information, you find you’re probably the best candidate to piece together the puzzle so that others might see the whole picture, thereby alerting & enabling them to protect themselves, too? Would you speak up?
Now add that what got your investigative ball rolling was the death of the parent that resulted in the threat of losing your home. Because of a fluke when the parent helped save the sibling from losing her home several years ago as aftermath of a divorce, the deed ended up in the parent’s name, so that now both siblings own it 50-50 because there was no will. The sibling can file a legal claim by which she may possibly regain title to her house, but with the family turned against her, they will likely help this person fight the sibling in court, viewing this person as the tragic victim of a greedy sibling.
Suppose this person attempted to get a sizeable advance of her presumed inheritance, prior to creditors being paid, and prior to the estate administrator discovering that she destroyed what she had been deceiving the family as being the largest asset — the house she lived in that the parent bought her and made all the monthly mortgage payments on (in addition to paying most or all her other bills, even restitution & probation fees), so that now it’s worth less than the remaining note due on it. Third consecutive house that she irreparably demolished—the first being the one she burned down; as opposed to the sibling who originally purchased her own house, for the most part paid her own mortgage, whose house appreciated in value, and who certainly never caused destruction to anyone’s property.
Then it turned out that there will be no inheritance because this person depleted or destroyed all the parent’s financial resources already. The only asset left of any value is the sibling’s house (a small cottage with 50K equity in a low-middle income subdivision, compared to her 4-bedroom 2 bath on an acre that she ruined), while outstanding debts leave the entire estate at a deficit that can force a sale by creditors, debts that can be traced back primarily to this person. Despite these irrefutable facts, this person has convinced the family that the sibling is just trying to take everything, even though there is nothing to take. All the sibling wanted was to keep her own house that she bought herself 2 decades ago and has been inhabiting, maintaining & improving, and caring for ever since.
This all started as a pursuit of the sibling to rightfully keep her home, make it a fair fight, sibling vs. sibling, without the whole family against the one sibling. Now that so much devastating new evidence has since come to light, it has grown into a pursuit to enlighten family members so that they can protect themselves, including the sibling’s own life and that of her child, from this person.
At least one family member admonished that, under the circumstances, that makes you, the sibling, the worst candidate to speak up, condemnable for even considering it, no matter how much you’ve discovered that’s led you to acknowledge that this person is very dangerous and that people — including you and your child — are in harm’s way, because it only makes you appear to have a less than noble motive.
What, if anything, would you do?
Learn more: How to report your abuser’s crimes so the police take you seriously
Lovefraud originally posted this article on Oct. 27, 2010.
Eden – Thank you for you nice words. I try not to think or talk about spaths all the time. Just here, with the peeps that dont think I am crazy……ok off to work……
Shabby, yes, I do want to meet you. We’ll stay up late together, like we always do! 🙂
Eden and Shabby Chic,
It would be so great to have a girls night or day or whatever. After the trade show, I hope to have an entire week to myself while BF is off doing business. After a dreary winter in the Pacific NW, SoCal sounds like heaven.
To get each others’ emails just write a note to donna@LoveFraud.com
asking her to give me and each other, your emails and I’ll do the same.
Eden, you asked who Rene Girard is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Girard
He is a French philosopher with many interesting ideas. He doesn’t write about spaths – not sure he knows what they are – but his ideas incorporate perfectly into my understanding of spaths. The spaths always scapegoat others, their evil derives from envy and their behavior is based on lies and deception.
Hi Skylar, I did send an email to Donna (found her address under Blog Admin. or something such as that) requesting that she give you my address. I am looking forward to making a plan. I will work on findng options for you. If I do not have your email address by this afternoon, I will touch base with you here and let you know the status of my progress!
Thank you.. I did look up Rene Girard! Thank you for that! I plan to read about him on wiki asap.
Talk to you, soon!
E
Hens, Of course! You are so welcome! You are fabulous!
Have a fantastic day!
E
Skylar, I thought it was interesting that Girard said the word, “scandel” comes from the Greek word for “obsticle” or for something that might trip you up. That interests me because it shifts the word away from the idea of “sin” and closer to the idea of self-love and happiness. Do I make any sense?
We are all human, and as such we fall prey to temptation. We are tripped up by our foolish choices…but we aren’t damned for them. And those foolish choices are what cuts us off from our own happiness and well being.
Get the behind me Satan. Get out of my way and let me find happiness and peace of mind.
Hens, I had two imaginary friends when I was about 5 and lived where there were no other kids for me to play with. I used to hear words that I “liked the sound of” and would use them as “names” for my imaginary friends and animals on the farm. There was a big sow named “tissue” and I was heart broken when she was butchered. I would scratch her between the bars of her stable as she lay there (lucky she didn’t bite my arm off, Swine are not nice creatures) so I thought she was my “pet.”
Star, having an imaginary “friend” to talk to even when we are adults is not a bad thing. A sad thing that there is not someone in your life that you can trust enough to talk out your feelings except this imaginary friend. I realize that you don’t trust therapists but that doesn’t have to be a “forever” thing–I do think you need someone (certainly want someone) to talk to.
This “problem” you’ve had letting go of the neighbor after the short and apparently for him casual sexual relationship I think is an indication of your need for friendship and connection with others, and the only way that is going to happen I think is if you reach out to others for some connection, but don’t expect someone else to FILL YOUR ENTIRE NEEDS. NO one else can fill our internal void, but connection is a good thing, just that we can’t totally depend on OTHERS for our entire emotional needs, we have to fill some of them ourselves in order to be secure.
Take care of yourself, Star, and reach out to some others but also realize that we have to fill our own needs for security and can’t depend on others to make us “safe” and “fulfilled.” This feeling of being insecure and empty and lonely is totally understandable to me. I was sure there after my husband died. I opened myself up to the psychopathic bf because I was so needy and lonely and empty. I don’t feel so empty any more. I’m much more at peace and content with myself and by myself now, so if An opportunity does come for a relationship I will be more ready for a good one, but I sure don’t want a bad one again! (((hugs)))
Kim,
I didn’t catch that. Very interesting, I’ll have to check into it.
I’ve never thought about the meaning of the word scandal. So I looked it up and it pertains to disgraceful behavior by someone in authority.
I get what you mean that an obstacle is something that gets in your way of happiness, but I don’t yet understand Girard’s reason for equating scandal with obstacle. These concepts are hard for me, but I’m working hard to get it because I can see how important they are too.
Kim,
I found something that is helping me get it.
“The Greek word skandalizein comes from a verb that means “to limp.” What does a lame person resemble? To someone following a person limping it appears that the person continually collides with his or her own shadow.”
it came from this site:
http://girardianlectionary.net/res/skandalon.htm
This is fascinating. It ties into abuse of/by authority.
This is so interesting for me Sky because I studied Girard while I was working on a Masters degree in English and I took a class entitled, “Classical Literatre and Contemporary Theory”. We studied Oedipus by Sophocles and then used Girardian theory to analyze it. Oedipus was abandoned at birth because his father had been to the Delphic oracle and it predicted that Oed. would eventually kill him and sleep with his wife (Oed’s mom).
Oed’s father peirced and bound Oed’s ankles so he couldn’t walk and then exposed him to the elements and left him to die.
My point is that Oed limped throughout his life. I never heard this word scandelon when I took my class, but find it interesting.
Oed is the ultimate scape-goat…(the word “tragedy” comes from the greek and means “Goat-song”).
So Greek Tragedy is a form of the victims singing their story of innoscent victimization, but it always has to remain veiled because if the victims innoscence is revealed then sacrifice won’t work to bannish violence from the community.
I like the idea that anyone of us could trip up on our own weaknesses and or ignorance and that this trip up is linked to unhappiness. I like that so much better than the idea of sin, disgrace and scandel. I think it better describes a relationship with a loving God.
I’m gonna go to your link now, Sky. Thanks so much for telling me about the limp.
Kim,
I didn’t know that about Oed limping. very interesting. didn’t know about the word tragedy meaning goat song. So what does comedy mean?
here’s the real kicker, well actually 2 of them:
Remember the story, looking for Mr. Goodbar? This story has all the classic elements of narcissism and abuse. The woman who is killed had a sister who was the “golden child”, she felt unloved and kept submitting herself to sexual abuse.
The woman who is killed, was “scandalized” by her parents, when she was young. They ignored her and didn’t tend to her needs so that when she developed curvature of the spine, it was not noticed immediately. Consequently, she walked with a limp.
Then, remember the link that was posted here awhile back? It was a video showing people walking and sociopaths could always tell who had been the victim of a mugging because of the way she walked? The arms swung out of sync with the pace. Again, it’s like someone “tripping on their own shadow”
REVELATIONS COMING IN SPADES FROM GIRARD.