Most of the time we spend with sociopaths is spent in confusion. They tell us that they love us, while they cheat on us and take our money. They tell us that everything will be wonderful while our lives are falling apart. They tell us they’re sorry and will never do it again, yet they do it again, and again, and again.
We ask ourselves—what in the world is going on here?
They explain it all away. The explanation seems to make sense. But something still isn’t right, and they still don’t stop the behavior that makes us believe we are losing our minds.
There must be a reason. We wonder if they’re depressed, or bipolar, or they have low self-esteem. We’ve been told that they were abused as children. They overindulge in alcohol or drugs, and we’re sure that if they can only overcome their addiction, they’ll change.
It never happens.
We can’t figure it out.
The words that fit the behavior
Then someone says, “It sounds like he (or she) is a sociopath.” Or maybe they even use the word “psychopath.”
Sociopath! They’re the guys on The Sopranos.
Psychopath! They’re all serial killers.
But something tells us to do more research, so we go online. We buy a book. And there they are, the people who are driving us insane, perfectly described in the symptoms of a sociopath.
At Lovefraud, we hear it all the time:
“He’s got every symptom on the list!” “The description fits her to a T!”
Finally, we have a name for that person’s problem. He or she is a sociopath. A psychopath. An antisocial.
Finally, it all makes sense. The lies, the emptiness, the remorselessness, the evil. There is a reason. It is not us. It is a personality disorder.
Naming the disorder makes all the difference. Finally, we begin to understand what we are dealing with. This allows us to begin recovery.
Learn about them in school
Why do we spend so much time in confusion? Because there is no education program about this personality disorder for the general public.
I remember a story from the tsunami that struck Indonesia, Sri Lanka, India and Thailand on December 26, 2004. A vacationing family was on the beach there when the ocean suddenly receded. The little girl of the family had just finished studying tsunamis in school, and learned that the receding ocean meant that a wall of water would soon come crashing into the shore. She told her family, and they escaped to higher ground.
Sociopaths cause personal tsunamis for all of their victims. The sociopaths/ psychopaths/ antisocials of the world cause a huge percentage of all human pain, damage and devastation, yet most of the population does not know they exist. Why? Why don’t we learn about these predators in school? If we did, when we saw the symptoms, we could escape.
Arguing over terminology
Part of the problem with trying to educate people about these predators is that the mental health professionals do not agree on what to call it. First it was moral insanity. Then it was psychopath. Then it was sociopath. Then it was antisocial personality disorder.
The professionals can’t agree on how to define and diagnose the disorder, either. The American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (DSM-IV), is supposed to be the bible for clinicians. I find its description of antisocial personality disorder to be vague and difficult to understand.
Dr. Robert Hare’s description of the symptoms of a psychopath—the term he uses—is easier to understand, and the test he developed has been consistently shown to be useful in predicting recidivism among criminals. But Hare’s criteria and evaluation are resisted by many psychiatrists. From what I’ve heard, the basis for much of the disagreement is political.
Mental health profession should come to agreement
I believe this lack of agreement is a travesty, and the professionals are actually contributing to the confusion in which the predators operate. In a way, that makes the mental health professionals complicit in the havoc wreaked by the sociopaths/ psychopaths/ antisocials—whatever we call them.
Lovefraud calls on the professional associations to solve this problem. The American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Medical Association, the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry—please, come to an agreement.
Make a decision. Define this disorder. Publicize the symptoms. Let the general public learn what to look out for.
It would help all of us keep the sociopaths/psychopaths/antisocials, the human tsunamis, from upending our lives.
have not heard about the cristy brinkley story but on the cover of people magazine Anne Hathaway’s bf of 4 years was jailed for fraud he is a con man…..
I saw that…they’re multiplying!
eyesopened,
I’m inclined to agree with you. But it seems there should be a way to classify her actions. She’s kind of a female version of my “friend”. I just know it makes my skin crawl as to the way she lives. I’m one who doesn’t like drama and don’t need it to live. That’s why I can’t get into their head and figure them out. I guess I could be classified as a non-personality, since I don’t like confrontation and want a sedate lifestyle.
I don’t need to sleep around to prove myself. I know I’m a woman and don’t have to be constantly reminded. The funny part is, she and several others seem to gravitate to me. Like I’m the port or pit stop. I’ve tired of that role. I’ve learned to make myself available when it suits me and not them. I used to think I needed to be on call. That was my purpose. All that did was drain me. I’ve quit. Now if someone wants something they have to ask, and I’ve reserved the right to say no, and if they don’t like, they can go to the next house. I’ve learned too, that they don’t like me any better if I’m available than when I’m not. So if I continue to let them, I have only me to blame.
Along the lines of these ones showing no remorse for what they do when they sleep around…My boss is currently going through a divorce and his wife had many affairs in the 12 years they were together. He said she couldn’t understand why he’d get upset. She told him it wasn’t about him. It was about her. Now if that doesn’t sound like twisted thinking. I thought when we committed to someone, it was every part of us. We are to be an exclusive.
From what I endured and experiencing the pain of those here, I doubt whether I’ll ever have another relationship. If Christie Brinkley has problems, there’s no hope for someone like me. But they did label her husband. I think some people like that. It’s their title to entitlement. It’s their excuse for their inexcusable behavior. They seek sympathy and most of them, will say they just can’t help themselves. Whatever. I sure would hate having all my dirty laundry aired, but to some they think that makes them more important. No matter what, the focus is on them.
Hi Apt/Mgr
I was just being facetious, A/M. (I was going to say she was “one hot mess,” but, really, there’s nothing hot about her or her lifestyle.)
I think you’re not a non-personality, just a smart, stable, sensitive one. And if you think about it, it makes sense that she’d want to be friends with you. You might be her link to sanity, but if she’s all about herself and her drama, she might not want to be friends with someone like herself – it would just be competition. She’d rather have someone smart and in her life on whom to unburden.
But it does nothing for you but cause tension and concern. Part of our lesson in all of this, I think, might be knowing to cut the lines before they drag us down.
I think your resolve to be in charge of who you let in your life is a tribute to all the work you’ve done…nice job!
A/M
You’re so right…giving themselves a label gives them permission to continue. They don’t have to be responsible any more. It’s just part of their DNA. When the S with whom I was associated was told he was a “sex addict” by his therapist, he was nonplussed and unembarrassed. I think he might have been relieved because now he either didn’t have to change or he had an easy alibi.
Welcome IndieChick, to the LoveFraud fellowship.
You’re experience with a psycho is as important for you to tell as it is for us to learn more so we can guard and protect ourselves from future predators. I can’t offer anything new that these wonderful, lovely, hyper intelligent women (& Henry) haven’t already said.
Spill the beans anytime you wish. We’re here to listen, and learn ourselves.
I also want to share a brilliant article on Laura’s SOTT website that I discovered 2 days ago. Yes, it’s an older article and many of you might have read it already. But to me, it is TIMELESS, adding more insight, more clarity on why these creatures of DOOM inflict monumental catastrophes on hundreds of human lives.
http://www.sott.net/signs/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1714
Dear Henry,
Sweetheart, these Ps have done unforgiveable things to all of us and most of us have let them come back into our “circle of trust” or into our lives and beds at least, over and over.
You are not alone. Don’t be ashamed in the least. I have beaten myself up so much over taking my P-son’s word for things when I knew in my heart he was an unrepentent liar and a murderer for goodness shakes! I beat myself up for submitting to the verbal abuse of my X-BF, and on and on, but beating yourself up isn’t the answer. It took me quite a while to STOP that self-abuse but I did, and you can too. YOU have nothing to be ashamed of my friend. HE DOES, but he ISN’T.
“Forgving” someone you love is good, but there are limits to it. Called BOUNDARIES and there are some boundaries that should NEVER BE CROSSED. Forgiving someone doesn’t mean that you trust them again, though. If you forgive them and want to rebuild the relationship there has to be some OBVIOUS repentence ACTION not just words.
(((Big Hug))))
Thank you Jane Smith and others. You dont know how good it feels to have someone listen (wait…I take that back…Im sure you do know!). I feel a calmness and serenity today that I have not felt in a long time. Its the end of day 4 of NC. He hasnt called today. I guess Im becoming out of sight out of mind to him. He has other “preoccupations”. Good for him. OR he’s playing the waiting game. The silence is peaceful yet disturbing because I dont know what he has up his sleeve.
Im guessing he’s either in his manic mode – bravado, arrogant, “piss on her” attitude or his depressive mode – “nobody likes me everybody hates me I’m a loser”. It’s generally one or the other.
Which brings me to my next question: Are these extreme mood swings characteristics of SP? or is that another one of the myriads of personality disorders which exist? I’m sure the jerk has more than one disorder from what I’ve observed…Narcissism, BPD, bipolar, to name a few.
His manic mode fits the SP description but his “poor me Im a loser” description doesnt really…from what Ive read. Or are these extreme mood swings flipsides of the same sociopathic coin?
Jane, another thing…I read that article you posted. BINGO. I’ve often felt jerkboy lived in fantasy land. Everything about him is dramatic which I believe is what attracted me to him in the first place. He was “exciting” and charismatic.
He’s a music lover and Ive seen his demeanor change depending on the type of song that was playing. If a depressing, slow tear jerker was playing he’d become the forlone, sad one. The very next song would be some aggressive death metal thing and you’d see his whole face change into some demonic like being. I’ve seen this happen in a matter of minutes especially when drinking.
It’s as if he lived in his own little fantasy world. He was HUGE on rock music trivia (which a lot of guys are) and celebrity gossip news (which I think was part of his feminine side lol…another reason why people think he’s gay). Ive never known a guy who was SO into celebrity news, but I figured it was just a little idiosyncracy or quirk. What Ive come to realize is that he worships these people to some degree. It’s a fantasy land for him.
If he “thinks” something it must be true irregardless of facts or evidence. I would present evidence of his behavior or lies and he would either ignore it or create another lie to explain away the lie. It was maddening. I would often say to him that he’s not living in reality. Now I know why.
I just realized something. I’m speaking about him in past tense. Thats a first and a good thing.