Jimmy Savile was one of the most well-know stars of British television. Everyone knew he was eccentric and many people apparently knew he was also a sexual predator who targeted young girls for decades.
Jimmy Savile scandal on BBC.co.uk.
‘If we blabbed on Jimmy, the family would have been left with nothing’: Savile’s abused great niece tells how paedophile DJ bought his relatives’ silence, on DailyMail.co.uk.
Britain’s Jimmy Savile abuse scandal: how could his crimes have gone unnoticed for so long? on WashingtonPost.com.
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MoonDancer
Yep, I hear tinkle bellas aslaso, i aspilt coffee on my keyboasrd.oh my, gonnas hasve to buy me sa neqw one.
skylar
hens, did you say “meow”? 😛
darwinsmom, your gut was talking to you. Sure there were red flags but I get the impression it was your gut that was really speaking up. And that made you start to dissect the red flags to determine what was a warning and what wasn’t.
It is nice to have a place to discuss red flags. Would normal people tell us that we’re being too paranoid?
kim frederick
Skylar, no. I think Hens said,”meowpeq”.
Darsmom, I think your friends are swingers! I think he is grooming you by making you feel bad for his wife, ie. women treat her badly…he is using her to reel you in, because you’re much too nice to hurt her feelings. I’ll bet my bottom buck that they are in cahoots together and looking to seduce a lover….that would be you. Who knows if she’s into it, or just going along with a spath who has her totaly psychologically decimated. JMTOTRF.
darwinsmom
Sky,
I think non survivors indeed would call us paranoid, even the most understanding non-survivor would. And yes, it’s great to have a place to discuss those gut feelings and what spurred them on.
No idea at all whether he’s a spath, not thinking about that… but something there that might not be right.
Kim,
You might be right. The thought has crossed my mind. Ain’t happening though. And being groomed is an apt way to describe it. That’s kinda how I felt: as if being groomed for something. When people become too adamant about liking you and wanting to get to know you better, on and on and on, it feels unnatural and purposeful. That is the main red flag to me. There’s no reason to repeat it four times.
Hens,
Oh my 🙂
ETA: my mom listened to the story about the couple of last Friday, and she too instantly said… “that sounds weird, kinda creepy”. The financial secret proposition was the weirdest too in her eyes, and she told me – “keep them at arm’s length, and if you meet them, on your terms: having your own transport and public/crowded place. Your intuition is telling you something, and better listen to it.” Apparently non-survivors can understand too.
shanmoo
Hey.. An old reader here.. not been around for a while but the JS matter got me back… Thank you Donna for posting the info.
Theres a good article here by a journalist Jude Calvert-Toulmin on JS being a a psychopath:
http://judecalverttoulmin.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/jimmy-savile-child-rapist-and-psychopath.html
Just look at the eyes. They are very similar to my ex-spath. No feeling, no emotion, just staring at you empty. You know that behind those eyes is a very sick and sadistic mind.
Theres also a concern that JS may have been into necrophilia. Seemingly he had access to the bodies at the morgue or mortuary. So now they are wondering. He wouldnt have stopped at anything it seems. Gross.
Horrible, horrible man. I hope he rots into eternity.
skylar
Thanks Shanmoo for that link. I just can’t figure out why it ends with the C word? huh?
Donna’s first link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19984684
I found the most “telling”.
Lots of red flags. I found it interesting that someone mentioned that when traveling he only brought one pair of knickers and washed it ever night in the sink. I know another spath who did the same! Anyone else?
Saying that he hated children was also interesting because my spath crazy husband stealing neighbor, ALSO said that to me. Then she went on to tell me that a teenage boy from the neighborhood asked for a ride and she gave it to him. Then she asked me if I thought that was ok. Huh? wtf?
So those are red flags for me.
But the cigar mentioned in Jude’s article… I’m not sure we can call it a red flag because there are many cigar smokers, including George Burns, whom we can’t say was a pervert spath.
The elastic waistbands, also could be an indicator but not for everyone because lots of people exercise in those. But yes, I’ve heard that sex addicts prefer elastic because they can get a quickie more easily.
His eccentricity was a glaring red flag. My spath was not eccentric and didn’t stand out, but one day he said, “I’m just an eccentric inventor and helicopter pilot.” WTF? He’s never invented anything, though he tries and he doesn’t have a pilot’s license though he does fly for a living.
Eccentricity is one way of hiding pathology under a clown mask.
Louise
skylar:
Well, mine wore the same clothes all the time…kind of on those same lines 🙂
Louise
shanmoo:
Yes, those are dead eyes…ewwww. He was so gross…yuk.
G1S
The Jude Calvert Toulmin piece claimed that you could just look at JS and see that he was a pedophile.
Oh how I wish people wouldn’t make statements like that.
What does a pedophile look like? A scout master? Minister? Priest? School teacher? Seriously, bad guys don’t wear black hats.
Isn’t it part of our message how disarming, likeable, and approachable Ps and pedophiles are? If one could tell by looking at somebody what they were and capable of doing, I suspect that none of us would be here or need something like Lovefraud.
When I read that any person “looks like one,” I cringe. It gives permission to go on witch hunts and accuse anyone of anything simply because, in our humble opinions, we don’t like the looks of them.
Likewise, I feel very uncomfortable with statements claiming that all eccentrics are perverts or implying that one’s waistband is telling and a dead giveaway. I’ve worked in the clothing industry. Do you know how many pairs of pants a manufacturer can make in a day?
If we want people to take us seriously, we should keep to creditable statements and information. Start making generalizations and we’ll get dismissed and passed over.
KatyDid
GS1
I wish I could hit the “like” button on your post, esp the last three paragraphs.
As a woman who was involved/married to my sociopath for 23 years, I can’t help but pick up some of his mannerisms. One is I sometimes stare. That’s b/c I am trying to assess safe or danger. Can I trust, or should I be wary. So people on here point out that is a sociopath trait. My neighbor stares and blinks rapidly. She has allergies and her meds dry her eyes, and sometimes her vision is affected.
Conversely, my husband was VERY socially gifted. He Never stared. People comment on how personable he is, how humble, he was able to put people at ease. My father, a pedophile, was the sweetest man, everyone thought him so very kind.
If it was easy to pick out sociopath vs good guy by certain physical characteristics, then our work here would be done. The problem is, sociopathy is a BEHAVIOR disorder, not a physical disorder, generalizations become a distraction of a very complex, very dangerous disorder.