Lovefraud recently received the following email from a reader whom we’ll call “Eleanor.”
Thank you for your wonderful site Lovefraud! It has helped me tremendously. I am still with my sociopath husband, but am quietly and surely planning on leaving. We have a few children so it really makes it more complicated.
He has now gone up to the next stage in what I’ve read sociopaths love to do. I’m so thankful that I read about it before he did it and know how to react and what to expect! He’s started to call up my family, giving them a sob story about how broken he is and how I won’t get any help (we’ve gone through a few counselors, with no obvious results as they’ve all been taken in by his acting abilities).
Now my question to you is, knowing he’s doing this, how can I have my close family not be influenced by him or believe him? To know it’s useless to fight him that’s a given (except in court, I will do whatever I can so that he doesn’t get custody of the children). But what can I say to my family to let them not take sides, realize he’s lying to them, and have them not believe him? I tried to tell them this but his authentic depressed behavior got to them more. I don’t want to be left alone without any support and want to catch this in the bud.
After I read your wonderful site I realize he’s been doing this for years. He’ll see I’m talking to a specific friend too much, and suddenly she’ll stop calling. I tried hard to think if I did anything to offend her, and I didn’t. Before I just had vague suspicions, but now I see clearly that he probably called her or her husband and spread lies that I told about her (I have only said good things about her, so there’s nothing truthful that he could say that would be bad). This has happened with past counselors also. One I finally had the courage to call and told her what he said that she said, and she was very upset and said she never said that about me and she’ll clear it up.
People don’t know
The problem Eleanor faces is that people in general do not know that sociopaths exist. They do not know what sociopathic behavior looks like. So because people do not understand that there are people who intentionally feign distress and unhappiness, casting themselves as the victim, they do not realize that what they are witnessing is nothing but an act, and they are being conned by a sociopath.
Eleanor needs to educate her family about sociopaths, but she needs to do it carefully. If she rants and raves that they should not to believe her husband because he is a sociopath, they will probably look at her like she is nuts. In fact, her husband may already be telling them that he’s very concerned about Eleanor, because she’s becoming mentally unglued. The family may begin to think that the husband is right, and Eleanor does, in fact, have mental issues.
Why would they think this? Because they probably believe that sociopaths are all deranged serial killers. If Eleanor’s husband hasn’t killed anyone, or if he isn’t violent, then she must be nuts.
Silence of the Lambs
A few days ago I watched The Silence of the Lambs. This is, of course, the movie that features Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter, the cannibalistic psychopath.
Even though the movie came out in 1991, I’d never seen it. I don’t like horror movies or scary movies, so I never wanted to. But since we spend so much time talking about how people don’t understand what a psychopath really is, I figured I needed to see the movie that created so much misinformation, so I ordered it from Netflix. I was so apprehensive that I actually had nightmares several days before watching the film.
Two things struck me about Silence of the Lambs. First, Jodie Foster was really young in the movie. Second, no wonder people think psychopaths are all brilliant, cold-blooded serial killers.
The movie won five Academy Awards, including Best Actor and Best Actress for Hopkins and Foster, along with Best Picture, Best Director and Best Adapted Screenplay. The American Film Institute named Hannibal Lecter, as portrayed by Hopkins, as the number one film villain of all time.
In the beginning of the movie, the medical director of the prison where Lecter is kept says, “Oh, he’s a monster. A pure psychopath. So rare to capture one alive.” And Lecter does display psychopathic behavior. But his behavior is so off the charts that I don’t know if there are any real-life cases as bad as he is.
Lecter is highly manipulative. The problem, however, is that his manipulation is obvious. His evil is obvious. And, of course, the guy is in prison for crimes so heinous that they put him in a straight jacket, strap him to a gurney and put a full mask on him to prevent him from literally biting someone’s head off.
I can see how the image of a psychopath from The Silence of the Lambs could be seared into someone’s brain. Unfortunately, the cartoon image of Hannibal Lecter may prevent people from identifying the real psychopaths who live among us.
After watching this movie, I feel like my decision to use the term “sociopath” on Lovefraud, instead of “psychopath,” was correct. No matter how many academic papers psychology researchers publish about the behavior of psychopaths, they’ll never be able to overcome the image of Anthony Hopkins ripping a cop’s face open with his teeth.
Red Flags of Love Fraud
Lovefraud’s goal is to educate people about sociopaths and what they’re really like, especially in intimate and family relationships. Towards that end, today I am sending my second book to the printer. It’s called, Red Flags of Love Fraud 10 signs you’re dating a sociopath. Here’s the description from the back cover:
What everyone who wants a loving relationship needs to know about social predators
Charisma, charm, so much in common and sexy too—is your romantic interest a dream date, or a sociopath? Millions of these social predators live among us, and they don’t look or act like serial killers. Rather, they present themselves as the love you’ve been waiting for all your life. Red Flags of Lovefraud identifies the clues and patterns of behavior that may indicate your partner is actually an exploiter. This book explains why you may be vulnerable, how the predators seduce you, how you become psychologically bonded, and how to break free of the trap.
I asked a former employee, whom I hadn’t spoken with in many years, to proofread the book. It turned out that she, too, married a sociopath. She told me, “If I’d read this book 10 years ago, it would have changed my life. Literally.”
My hope is that people will read the book, recognize the behaviors and realize that they’re dealing with a sociopath. My bigger hope is that people will read the book, learn the warning signs, and avoid becoming involved with a sociopath in the first place.
Explaining the behavior
But back to Eleanor she’s dealing with a husband who is full manipulation mode, trying to remove her support system by lying to her family and friends. My guess is he’s also running a smear campaign, subtly disparaging Eleanor to make her less credible.
First of all, I am really glad that Eleanor had the nerve to tell one of the counselors what her husband said. I’d be interested to know how that situation plays out —does the counselor start to get what is happening? Or does she fall for the husband’s lies again?
As far as the rest of her family is concerned, I think Eleanor needs to thoroughly educate herself about exactly what a sociopath is and how they behave. One way to do it is by reading Lovefraud carefully. She should learn about the key symptoms. She should even be able to quote some statistics about how many millions of sociopaths live among us.
Then, when appropriate opportunities arise with individual family members, she can present this information coolly and calmly. In fact, when her husband does something right out of the sociopathic playbook, she can explain how it is typical sociopathic behavior. For example, his sob story about how broken he is is an example of the pity play.
It’s important not to get upset or angry while conveying such information, because that would create the image that Eleanor is nothing but a scorned woman. People can’t listen to someone who is upset; they put up their defenses. And, presenting this information while upset could play right into the hands of the husband, who is probably saying that Eleanor is mentally unbalanced. So the best way to communicate this information is dispassionately.
What else can she do or say? Do you have any suggestions for Eleanor?
Skylar, you really should write articles. You are a powerful writer who speaks truth.
I so hear you: in my experience pathz greatest thrill is turning you into them. Not only that, but you taking the bait is, as you pointed out, their justification for every horribly bad thing that follows.
Madhanna, I agree that getting the hell out is the goal – partially. I think getting the hell out: with your soul intact; having taught your children the difference between right and wrong; teaching them how to stand up for and defend themselves without becoming monsters in the process, is also part of the goal.
The biggest victory over a spath is leading a happy life, trusting people that shown to be trustable, being open and genuine, sincere… that eventually he couldn’t destroy me.
Nah I wouldn’t lie either. Tempting but no. It could be that it’s easier for me to disengage from him as we don’t have children but he has tried to manipulate via my family and has been met by a brick wall. Lucky for me, yes.
I once said to my ex “The truth always comes out in the end”. This small innocuous statement was enough to send him into a spiral of paranoia, without me even knowing what a big fat liar he actually was! Give em enough rope and they’ll hang themselves ……eventually. I’m a fervent believer in what goes around comes around. So keep on friends. Fight the good fight. Truth conquers. Lies are for spaths.
Who said “You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time” ?
Amen to that
Life is for living.
I am feeling bad. Oxy, please don’t get out the skillet.
I met my spath in 08. Found this site in 09.
I went no contact on and off.
Longest I lasted was 2 consecutive months (Nov – Dec).
I recently, finally came out of my deep depression.
Finally I wasn’t hanging on this site by a thread every day. Finally I started enjoying my friends & hobbies again.
So what did I do?
I went back to my spath. Not in person, but I allowed him back in my life. Text messages. Thought I could handle it.
And now, my spath lied to me again, he kicked me in the gut again, he hurt me again and I am just beside myself with my own stupidity.
Why did I think things would change?
Why did I think, because I am stronger now, that contact would be okay?
Why did I have the audacity to hope?
He got remarried last spring.
This December he started telling me it was a “big mistake”, that he’s only living in the basement, yada yada.
I bought it.
I became aware that his wife wanted him to attend a game night night at their church.
So this morning he sent me a text about did I know that James Earl Jones blah blah blah
Something from game night (trivia game) I am sure.
It’s all lies. He goes to church events to make his new wife happy, with the intention of coming back and sending a dig to me.
Gotta pick up the pieces, and move on again, I guess.
God I am dumb.
Athena
Annie,
I’m also inspired by your posts – your insights, I think, are articulated concisely and to the point.
There are various other people here who have shared their wisdom who could also write great blog posts, IMO.
It’s our collective wisdom that creates this awesome forum. I’m so grateful to all the bloggers and the people who write the articles. As for Madhanna’s opinion, I am grateful to her for sharing it too, because it provided the forum discussion on this absolutely critical aspect of spath motivation.
My spath created more spaths. He mentors failed spaths on becoming more successful. That’s how he keeps his minions loyal. Those of us who cannot be turned into spaths become the innocent scapegoats to be sacrificed.
I honestly think that I’m MORE innocent because of my encounter with the spath. By poisoning me, he made me unable to work or participate in social interactions very much. Most of my life, from age 20 thru 43, I was like a cloistered nun, in some ways. I didn’t get the experience of meeting people, getting to know them, and learning how people can be two faced. I was truly shocked to learn it.
So in that way, he kept me naive and innocent. When it was time to sacrifice me, I think he wanted someone who was really innocent. I know that he has an obsession with innocence.
Skylar, were you married to a psychopath and had children with them?
Athena,
you’re not dumb. You’re just addicted and you thought you were stronger than the drug. Nobody is.
I’ve heard that acceptance is the first step in beating an addiction. Accept that you are powerless against your addiction and ask for help.
There is more to it than that, I just can’t remember the rest.
madhanna, 25 years with the spath and had cats with him. Everybody in my family, it turned out, is a spath except for one sister. Both parents are spathy. The spath had recruited minions all over my neighborhood to harrass me. He also had the police in his pocket and they were harrassing me on his command. As were several members of homeland security. The FBI came through for me by accident, but even they didn’t believe me. So I wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t.
He didn’t do this all of a sudden. He worked on it daily for 18 years so that the production would go off without a hitch and I would end up looking like a suicide. But I slipped away.
Sky, you survived! And he hadn’t expected you too!
Darwinsmom,
Spath has killed much stronger, richer, smarter and better people than I. It was God’s grace. I prayed constantly and He kept yanking me out of the mire.