Lovefraud recently received the following email from a reader whom we’ll call “Eleanor.”
Thank you for your wonderful site Lovefraud! It has helped me tremendously. I am still with my sociopath husband, but am quietly and surely planning on leaving. We have a few children so it really makes it more complicated.
He has now gone up to the next stage in what I’ve read sociopaths love to do. I’m so thankful that I read about it before he did it and know how to react and what to expect! He’s started to call up my family, giving them a sob story about how broken he is and how I won’t get any help (we’ve gone through a few counselors, with no obvious results as they’ve all been taken in by his acting abilities).
Now my question to you is, knowing he’s doing this, how can I have my close family not be influenced by him or believe him? To know it’s useless to fight him that’s a given (except in court, I will do whatever I can so that he doesn’t get custody of the children). But what can I say to my family to let them not take sides, realize he’s lying to them, and have them not believe him? I tried to tell them this but his authentic depressed behavior got to them more. I don’t want to be left alone without any support and want to catch this in the bud.
After I read your wonderful site I realize he’s been doing this for years. He’ll see I’m talking to a specific friend too much, and suddenly she’ll stop calling. I tried hard to think if I did anything to offend her, and I didn’t. Before I just had vague suspicions, but now I see clearly that he probably called her or her husband and spread lies that I told about her (I have only said good things about her, so there’s nothing truthful that he could say that would be bad). This has happened with past counselors also. One I finally had the courage to call and told her what he said that she said, and she was very upset and said she never said that about me and she’ll clear it up.
People don’t know
The problem Eleanor faces is that people in general do not know that sociopaths exist. They do not know what sociopathic behavior looks like. So because people do not understand that there are people who intentionally feign distress and unhappiness, casting themselves as the victim, they do not realize that what they are witnessing is nothing but an act, and they are being conned by a sociopath.
Eleanor needs to educate her family about sociopaths, but she needs to do it carefully. If she rants and raves that they should not to believe her husband because he is a sociopath, they will probably look at her like she is nuts. In fact, her husband may already be telling them that he’s very concerned about Eleanor, because she’s becoming mentally unglued. The family may begin to think that the husband is right, and Eleanor does, in fact, have mental issues.
Why would they think this? Because they probably believe that sociopaths are all deranged serial killers. If Eleanor’s husband hasn’t killed anyone, or if he isn’t violent, then she must be nuts.
Silence of the Lambs
A few days ago I watched The Silence of the Lambs. This is, of course, the movie that features Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter, the cannibalistic psychopath.
Even though the movie came out in 1991, I’d never seen it. I don’t like horror movies or scary movies, so I never wanted to. But since we spend so much time talking about how people don’t understand what a psychopath really is, I figured I needed to see the movie that created so much misinformation, so I ordered it from Netflix. I was so apprehensive that I actually had nightmares several days before watching the film.
Two things struck me about Silence of the Lambs. First, Jodie Foster was really young in the movie. Second, no wonder people think psychopaths are all brilliant, cold-blooded serial killers.
The movie won five Academy Awards, including Best Actor and Best Actress for Hopkins and Foster, along with Best Picture, Best Director and Best Adapted Screenplay. The American Film Institute named Hannibal Lecter, as portrayed by Hopkins, as the number one film villain of all time.
In the beginning of the movie, the medical director of the prison where Lecter is kept says, “Oh, he’s a monster. A pure psychopath. So rare to capture one alive.” And Lecter does display psychopathic behavior. But his behavior is so off the charts that I don’t know if there are any real-life cases as bad as he is.
Lecter is highly manipulative. The problem, however, is that his manipulation is obvious. His evil is obvious. And, of course, the guy is in prison for crimes so heinous that they put him in a straight jacket, strap him to a gurney and put a full mask on him to prevent him from literally biting someone’s head off.
I can see how the image of a psychopath from The Silence of the Lambs could be seared into someone’s brain. Unfortunately, the cartoon image of Hannibal Lecter may prevent people from identifying the real psychopaths who live among us.
After watching this movie, I feel like my decision to use the term “sociopath” on Lovefraud, instead of “psychopath,” was correct. No matter how many academic papers psychology researchers publish about the behavior of psychopaths, they’ll never be able to overcome the image of Anthony Hopkins ripping a cop’s face open with his teeth.
Red Flags of Love Fraud
Lovefraud’s goal is to educate people about sociopaths and what they’re really like, especially in intimate and family relationships. Towards that end, today I am sending my second book to the printer. It’s called, Red Flags of Love Fraud 10 signs you’re dating a sociopath. Here’s the description from the back cover:
What everyone who wants a loving relationship needs to know about social predators
Charisma, charm, so much in common and sexy too—is your romantic interest a dream date, or a sociopath? Millions of these social predators live among us, and they don’t look or act like serial killers. Rather, they present themselves as the love you’ve been waiting for all your life. Red Flags of Lovefraud identifies the clues and patterns of behavior that may indicate your partner is actually an exploiter. This book explains why you may be vulnerable, how the predators seduce you, how you become psychologically bonded, and how to break free of the trap.
I asked a former employee, whom I hadn’t spoken with in many years, to proofread the book. It turned out that she, too, married a sociopath. She told me, “If I’d read this book 10 years ago, it would have changed my life. Literally.”
My hope is that people will read the book, recognize the behaviors and realize that they’re dealing with a sociopath. My bigger hope is that people will read the book, learn the warning signs, and avoid becoming involved with a sociopath in the first place.
Explaining the behavior
But back to Eleanor she’s dealing with a husband who is full manipulation mode, trying to remove her support system by lying to her family and friends. My guess is he’s also running a smear campaign, subtly disparaging Eleanor to make her less credible.
First of all, I am really glad that Eleanor had the nerve to tell one of the counselors what her husband said. I’d be interested to know how that situation plays out —does the counselor start to get what is happening? Or does she fall for the husband’s lies again?
As far as the rest of her family is concerned, I think Eleanor needs to thoroughly educate herself about exactly what a sociopath is and how they behave. One way to do it is by reading Lovefraud carefully. She should learn about the key symptoms. She should even be able to quote some statistics about how many millions of sociopaths live among us.
Then, when appropriate opportunities arise with individual family members, she can present this information coolly and calmly. In fact, when her husband does something right out of the sociopathic playbook, she can explain how it is typical sociopathic behavior. For example, his sob story about how broken he is is an example of the pity play.
It’s important not to get upset or angry while conveying such information, because that would create the image that Eleanor is nothing but a scorned woman. People can’t listen to someone who is upset; they put up their defenses. And, presenting this information while upset could play right into the hands of the husband, who is probably saying that Eleanor is mentally unbalanced. So the best way to communicate this information is dispassionately.
What else can she do or say? Do you have any suggestions for Eleanor?
Skylar, Oh, I believe you. Actually the more outrageous the stories here, the more believable . I needed a reminder of your story because I have difficulty remembering stories to people without a face. Sorry about your trials. I have a psychopathic brother also. On the way out I told the psychopathic ex that a lot of women feel like they had married their fathers but I felt that I had married my brother. He said ‘yeh’. They know what they are.
madhanna,
I know I have trouble with remembering everyone’s stories too. Can you refresh me on yours?
Well I haven’t really written my story. I’m in my mid fifty’s, married 20 years to a psychopath, divorced 5years. Have a daughter in her first year at college, live with my 90 year old father, he still drives ,doing well. I’ve been reading love fraud since 2006. And I work contracts on and off- statistics.
Sky
I have potted plants inside the house, and out. In the winter I only tend to the ones inside. Still, a dull topic all in all.
Athena
Athena, I won’t boink you with the skillet, I think you have punished yourself enough, now get back on the NC wagon, and block his texts or change your number…whatever it takes to go NO CONTACT.
You are right, when we break contact we give them another occasion to hurt us. When we maintain no contact, they cannot hurt us.
Getting stronger doesn’t mean we can “handle” contact, it means we need to realize that NO CONTACT is the ONLY way unless you have children and the courts require you to have contact and co-parent…then you find some way to do it with as little contact as possible.
Go ye and sin no more! (((Hugs))) and my prayers
Athena-
Really big hugs honey. We have all been there. Like Sky says – none of us are stronger than the drugs IF WE TAKE THEM. The ONLY way not to take the “spath drug” is to stay NO CONTACT.
You already know this and it will get easier and clearer as time goes on. xxx
Sky & Annie & others –
I couldn’t agree more with your take on speaking only the truth. Dis-information is not a violation of this, but lying is and serves only the spaths and their master.
As for the point that was made about how they target mostly honest people and then relentlessly use any apparent “chink” in our moral armour to “prove” the lies they have told about us, let me tell you a wee story from the year of my escape.
October 2007. Spath dumped me in the March, came crawling back in the July (and I reluctantly let him move back in with me: hope springs eternal and all that shite…)
August – he had been back in the house for precisely 4 weeks and I knew – and MY BODY KNEW to the point where I was afraid to fall asleep at nights – that he had ONLY come back to work out how he could kill me off without arousing suspicion. Came a day when I knew he was making his move and had the police remove him from the house. Bought my own house. Began to move house around the end of September. Had had pneumonia twice already that year, shingles in July then pneumonia and pleurisy end of August, through to the end of October.
Single-handedly moved house whilst still working full time, sick as a dog and grieving like – well, I guess you ALL know what the grieving feels like – and being slandered and stalked by the Superspath at my every turn.
I was back at the house to collect the last of my belongings. Given the state of my health that day and the amount of pain I was in and grief I was experiencing, it was no wonder that having driven to the house I discovered that I had left my house key back at the new house. I had no time to go back and get it because I had friends coming to help me move my gear and had no way of contacting them to say that I would be late meeting them there. I knew that I could jiggle the bathroom window to get in, so I did that. We did what needed to be done and we left.
But I forgot to shut the bathroom window.
Superspath knew I had my own keys, knew that I was till moving out and had not moved back in yet himself. He knew I was as honest as the day is long and would never knowingly break any law.
So he filed criminal charges against me for breaking and entering (my own home) and I had to go to court to answer those charges. The fact that the magistrate then ordered the charges to be withdrawn and I was not convicted of the alleged offences, was neither here nor there in the end ”“
In the meantime, he had kept me dangling and distressed for 5 months while the police tried to talk him out of pursuing the charges. Then there was a wait of several months between being video interviewed by the police (very traumatic) and having to attend the hearing. Then the trauma of the hearing itself and the continuing knowledge that although I was not found guilty, I had been made a public spectacle of in front of the very judiciary whose protection I would sorely need over the next few years.
He sent broadcast mobile (cell) telephone text messages to everyone we knew whose telephone numbers he had, telling them all that I was a criminal.
He has continued to raise the “break and enter” at EVERY court hearing subsequent to this, including recent property settlement proceedings at the Family Court (a completely unrelated forum that does not even deal with such matters).
I was innocent of wrong doing yet he was able to use a simple error of judgement on my part to paint me as a criminal.
Their libel and slander is one thing – they will all do that to us anyway. But playing into their hands (as I did) by actually MAKING a mistake, or by doing something dodgy, immoral, out-of-character or just not-quite-kosher – that’s just HANDING it to them on a plate; and boy will they ever keep dishing it up, long after the “meal” has gone cold!!
Good advice Aussie Girl! They will take anything we do and twist it and turn it to make like we are the criminals when indeed it is the other way round! Believe me the egg donor has twisted things around until I have been brutally abusive to my poor dear old mummy!
Hope you are well and still safe!
This is absolutely sterling advice, and crucially important.
As for these counselors, spouses and partners of chronic abusers (who may be psychopaths or may have a different disorder) report very different experiences when they attempt couple counseling with the abuser. Joint counseling with an abuser is a crapshoot. The outcome may be better or it may be worse, depending on several factors. It depends very much on the skill and perceptiveness of the counselor. It depends on the character and bebavior of the abuser. But it also depends on the behavior of the partner.
When a partner does get benefits out of joint counseling with an abuser, these (off the top of my head) can take one of about four forms:
1. Once in a blue moon, an abuser has been persuaded to change or undergo treatment as a result of joint counseling. However, this is about as common as hitting the jackpot on a slot machine. Most of the abusers who do make a serious effort to change only do so when they’re jolted into it by the partner leaving (not just “threatening to”). They’re still a minority, and not the psychopathic types. Psychopaths just don’t change.
2. Now and again counseling can smooth over the worst conflicts in an abusive relationship and make it more tolerable, for a time. Unfortunately with an abuser any such improvements are likely to be both superficial and temporary, and don’t solve the fundamental problems making the relationship harmful to the partner and unsustainable in the long term.
3. More commonly, depending on the perceptiveness of the counselor (among other things), the benefit the partner gets out of counseling is much-needed validation that they’re being treated abusively. Sometimes after seeing the abuser, a counselor has been able to tell a spouse, in confidence, “I think your partner is a narcissist,” or “a chronic controller,” or whatever. Though that can’t fix the abuser, or the relationship, it does give the partner the confidence to work toward a necessary separation and breakup.
4. Often the benefit of joint counseling is a paradoxical one. Though it may be a frustrating experience in itself, with no improvement in the abuser’s behavior or in the relationship, at least a partner can now feel reassured that they’ve “tried everything” and nothing works. Then the partner doesn’t need to feel so guilty about leaving.
Unfortunately there can also be risks associated with counseling, of which I’ll mention two here.
1. When the partner makes disclosures to the counselor in front of an abuser, sometimes the abuser uses this information against the partner later. Or the abuser may be angered by the disclosure and prompted to retaliate against the partner afterwards. This can pose a danger if the relationship is physically violent.
2. The risk that’s most relevant to the present topic is that in the wrong conditions, “Benefit Number Three” above may be turned on its head. A counselor who fails to perceive what’s really going on between the couple can end up tagging the partner, not the abuser, as the “real” problem in the relationship. Instead of being validated, the partner is invalidated. Then the partner, already beaten down over the years by the abuser’s constant criticism and blame, ends up being revictimized all over again by the “authority figure” of a counselor. That only worsens the damage already done by the abuse itself.
This is a special risk to the many partners who are confused, don’t understand what’s going on in their relationship, and are already inclined to believe it’s something “wrong” with themselves. That’s the irony of many abusive relationships: that the partners actually agree!–despite both being wrong. The abuser yells “It’s all your fault!” and the partner thinks “Yes, I suppose it must be.”
So the first rule for anyone considering joint counseling with an abuser is that “forewarned is forearmed.” Counselors are not “always right”! One must be prepared to stand one’s ground and not buy into the consequence of an unwitting “collusion” between the counselor and the abuser. Unfortunately this can come about for several reasons.
Now and then a counselor may be biased in favor of an abuser. This is not necessarily dependent on the counselor’s sex. True, some counselors may be tempted to sympathize more with a partner of the same sex. But just as many counselors may be seduced by the “charm” of a partner of the opposite sex. If the abuser is psychopathic, “charm” is a trait they’re well noted for.
But a major problem is that most counselors are simply not trained in the pathology of abusers or the dynamics of abusive relationships. It’s perfectly possible to get a bachelor’s degree in psychology with ever taking a class on abnormal psychology! To me that’s as astounding as getting an engineering degree without ever discussing engineering faults and failures, but there it is. Most “marriage” counselors are trained to deal with the majority of more or less “ordinary” couples who just have conflicts or trouble relating to one another, not with the minority where a spouse has some personality disorder. If the counselor also lacks the insight to see what’s “really” going on between the couple, he or she can end up blaming an innocent partner for the problems in the relationship.
However, the way the couple present themselves to a counselor makes all the difference. If the abuser is a psychopath, that “superficial charm” and “gift of the gab” that many psychopaths are well known for can fool a counselor into believing this is a perfectly “nice” and “reasonable” person who surely is doing their best and couldn’t possibly be chronically abusive or some kind of control freak. But whether the abuser is psychopathic or not, one trait all abusers have in common is their habit of blameshifting. Whatever they’re accused of doing wrong just “has” to be made into somebody else’s fault!—usually their partner’s.
They may do this for more than one reason. It’s fair to say that the typical psychopath has a very loose relationship with Truth. Conversation to a psychopath is a means to an end. Psychopaths are prone to make statements to others, not because those statements reflect objective reality, or even reality as the psychopath mistakenly perceives it, but solely for the effect the statement has on others insofar as that serves the psychopath’s ends. If a psychopath denies being at fault for something, it’s not because the psychopath is unaware of being at fault, but because others may be persuaded by the denial to regard the psychopath more favorably or to refrain from penalizing him or her for wrongdoing. Now and again when it’s obvious to others that the psychopath did something very wrong, he or she may indeed “own up” and apologize profusely—but only because no other course of action is likely to regain other people’s favor.
Ordinary humans can also be somewhat guilty of doing these things from time to time. But with other kinds of abusers especially, who are not psychopathic, there can be a different reason. It’s not because they’re saying these things to fool others, but because, to one extent or another, they genuinely believe what they’re saying! Abusers, even if not psychopathic, have a remarkable capacity for twisting reality in their own minds, and for seeing themselves as the “victims” in a relationship.
I suspect all chronic abusers have a well-oiled mental mechanism for blameshifting that springs into action almost automatically out of long habit whenever any accusation is leveled against them. With the psychopath its purpose is to convince others that the psychopath is “not guilty,” or anyway “not a bad person” in spite of it. With other kinds of abusers a far more important purpose is to convince the abusers themselves that they’re “not guilty” or “not a bad person.” Unlike the psychopath, who is devoid of any “conscience,” many abusers do indeed have a conscience of sorts, however deeply it may be buried. Many abusers are exquisitely sensitive to shame—unlike the psychopath who is shameless. Some abusers can be so sensitive that they react defensively to harmless remarks that they even suspect might be “criticisms” of themselves, and respond by attacking (and abusing) the person who made the remark. To protect an already fragile and damaged ego, they rationalize their behavior and end up convincing themselves that they’re the real “victims” (as so many once were in childhood), and that everything is their partner’s fault.
So while the psychopath may be a polished actor in putting on the appearance of blamelessness, other kinds of abusers can be just as convincing because they sincerely believe (having convinced themselves) that they’ve done nothing “wrong.” In their minds, their criticisms and angry behavior at their innocent partners are justified by the partner’s supposed “faults.”
From one viewpoint it doesn’t matter what’s going on “underneath” in the abuser’s mind. Provided the abuser’s claims and behavior are convincing enough, a counselor can be taken in by them. But in addition, an abuser who sees everything as their partner’s “fault” goes into counseling with an “agenda” of their own: to get the counselor’s help in “fixing” whatever is supposedly “wrong” with their partner! That’s counterproductive when the real problem is with the abuser.
Apart from that, it’s the inconsistency of abusers’ behavior that so often takes people in, including counselors or anyone who fails to realize that “what you see is not always what you get.” I feel safe in saying that “inconsistency is the hallmark of any abuser.” Inconsistency between word and deed, inconsistency between claim and truth, inconsistency between appearance and reality: all these mark the psychopath especially, but can be just as true of abusers with disorders of another kind. On top of this, many abusers’ behavior is inconsistent from one person to another, and from one time to another, even with the same person.
It’s particularly problematic for an intimate partner when they are the only person being targeted for an abuser’s anger, criticism, rage and control tactics. Family, friends, and associates may never see that side of the abuser, and imagine he or she is an all-around “nice person.” Unfortunately it’s the nature of an “intimate partnership,” or what psychologists have called an “attachment relationship,” that invokes a whole different mental mechanism and potentially a whole different set of behaviors from those we practice with people at large. If that mechanism is unhealthy, an intimate relationship can bring out the worst of behaviors in an abuser, behaviors rarely or never seen with any other person. That can make it hard for an abused partner to get others to believe that the “nice person” they know could behave in outrageous ways they’ve never seen themselves. A counselor may find it hard to believe for the same reason.
Then many abusers really do seem to have two sides to their personality, Jekyll-and-Hyde style. This can result from mood swings (as in bipolar disorder) or the alternating mental states found in the “cyclothymia” associated with many borderline personalities. It’s hard for anyone who only sees the “Jekyll” personality to credit the hideous behavior this same person can be capable of at other times.
There’s also the well known “Cycle of Abuse, Type II.” I call it that to distinguish it from the other meaning of that same phrase, namely the way abusive behavior is passed down through families from one generation to the next. Rather, the “cycle of abuse” I’m talking about here is the one in which abusive behavior gets worse and worse, culminating in a huge blowup—after which the abuser, realizing the behavior has gone too far, expresses remorse, apologizes and promises “never to do it again.” The promise may be kept… for a while. But then the abuser’s behavior slowly deteriorates and the cycle is repeated over and over again, ad infinitum. This is not necessarily because the abuser’s apology is “insincere,” like that of a psychopath. It’s often that the abuser is unable to tolerate the shame of self-confrontation for very long, and in any case unable to “keep up” the good behavior.
My only reason for mentioning this “cycle of abuse” is what looks like an ambiguity in Eleanor’s e-mail. Eleanor said: “He’s started to call up my family, giving them a sob story about how broken he is…” [My emphasis.] Taken in context, I suspect what Eleanor meant was “how broken up he is” about the “problems” he claims to be experiencing with Eleanor, especially if he perceives that she does plan to leave him. But I didn’t write this to pick holes in Eleanor’s wording. It’s only because the guy might have been admitting that he himself is “broken”—that’s to say, confessing he has his own faults and issues too—and is looking for sympathy on those grounds. If so, that would also be typical behavior for many abusers. “Have mercy on me, a poor sinner.”
Regardless of all that, it certainly creates difficulties when abusers of any kind, psychopathic or otherwise, go around misleading people with their twisted perceptions (or alleged “perceptions”) of their partners’ “shortcomings.” They can mislead a counselor or anyone else.
The trouble is, as Donna pointed out (and Oxy too) that what the partner says, and how he or she says it, can unwittingly reinforce the impression the abuser is already making on others. A counselor—or anybody—can look from one to the other and think to themselves “It’s this person [the abuser] who looks and sounds sane to me. So calm, so reasonable, so sincerely sorrowful about this whole situation; so longsuffering and patient in struggling with these marital hardships. It’s their partner who looks bonkers, out of control, hysterical, overreacting, plainly exaggerating, and with ‘obvious’ anger problems!”
A contributory cause, too, can be that while psychopaths and other abusers are so practiced at shifting the blame onto their partners, partners by contrast are often too prone to self-doubt and inclined to accept blame that doesn’t belong to them. So a partner can be angry and frustrated on the one hand with the abuser’s behavior, but when the abuser responds with blameshifting, the partner may “back off” and admit “fault” of some kind. Then an onlooker may think “see, it was really the partner’s fault all along for being so hard to live with, just as they admitted!”
So one rule is to stand your ground and don’t let an abuser “change the subject” on you, in front of a counselor or anyone, from your own genuine grievances to their manufactured ones. But above all, when presenting your case to anyone else the first rule is exactly what Donna said: to ensure that you yourself appear calm, sane, reasonable, and as moderate as the events call for. A tone of sadness and regret is fine. It’s only natural in the circumstances. But overt anger and frustration, while a natural response to abusive treatment, can be misinterpreted as “your problem,” while excessive fear could be put down to “hysteria.” Be careful when describing outrageously abusive behavior that friends and assoiates may find hard to credit at the beginning. It could be advisable to proceed by stages to give them time to accept the unexpected reality you’re disclosing to them. It may be better to appear initially reluctant to expose the abuser’s worst behaviors rather than revealing them all at once. It’s best to avoid the appearance of wanting to “create a sensation,” acting out of spite, or anything of that kind.
Apart from that, keeping records is very important so that the abuser’s behavior can be accurately described, summarized, or even demonstrated to anyone else. Skylar’s suggestion of a digital recorder is an excellent one. Even when a tool like that isn’t or can’t be deployed, it’s still important to keep a journal of the abuser’s behaviors, noting them while they’re still as fresh in memory as possible, so that they’re not forgotten and can be quoted to others later.
The problem we all face is the inertia of those around us. They generally do not want to hear anything that they might have to respond to.
My ex, only a borderline sociopath (I joined this because I did meet a “real” one, making ex look almost normal!) actually admitted to his sister all the appalling things he had done to me, and would she please lay off blaming me for HIS behaviour? She completely blanked this out and turned to me, asking “what did you do to cause this?” She also, when he told her he was an alcoholic and could not drink again, offered him a Rum Baba desert, saying “a little won’t hurt” !!!
I now live a pretty solitary life – all my ex’s relatives shun me, despite the fact that they know we are still friends. It is all my fault that he is an alcoholic, adulterer and gay. Hmmm?
My advice is don’t even try to convince anyone – your real friends (which does not necessarily include family) will stick by you. Even my own (widowed) mother, when faced with ex’s confession, burst into tears at the thought that she might be losing him as a support – she has never said anything about what pain I must have endured.