Lovefraud recently received the following email from a reader whom we’ll call “Eleanor.”
Thank you for your wonderful site Lovefraud! It has helped me tremendously. I am still with my sociopath husband, but am quietly and surely planning on leaving. We have a few children so it really makes it more complicated.
He has now gone up to the next stage in what I’ve read sociopaths love to do. I’m so thankful that I read about it before he did it and know how to react and what to expect! He’s started to call up my family, giving them a sob story about how broken he is and how I won’t get any help (we’ve gone through a few counselors, with no obvious results as they’ve all been taken in by his acting abilities).
Now my question to you is, knowing he’s doing this, how can I have my close family not be influenced by him or believe him? To know it’s useless to fight him that’s a given (except in court, I will do whatever I can so that he doesn’t get custody of the children). But what can I say to my family to let them not take sides, realize he’s lying to them, and have them not believe him? I tried to tell them this but his authentic depressed behavior got to them more. I don’t want to be left alone without any support and want to catch this in the bud.
After I read your wonderful site I realize he’s been doing this for years. He’ll see I’m talking to a specific friend too much, and suddenly she’ll stop calling. I tried hard to think if I did anything to offend her, and I didn’t. Before I just had vague suspicions, but now I see clearly that he probably called her or her husband and spread lies that I told about her (I have only said good things about her, so there’s nothing truthful that he could say that would be bad). This has happened with past counselors also. One I finally had the courage to call and told her what he said that she said, and she was very upset and said she never said that about me and she’ll clear it up.
People don’t know
The problem Eleanor faces is that people in general do not know that sociopaths exist. They do not know what sociopathic behavior looks like. So because people do not understand that there are people who intentionally feign distress and unhappiness, casting themselves as the victim, they do not realize that what they are witnessing is nothing but an act, and they are being conned by a sociopath.
Eleanor needs to educate her family about sociopaths, but she needs to do it carefully. If she rants and raves that they should not to believe her husband because he is a sociopath, they will probably look at her like she is nuts. In fact, her husband may already be telling them that he’s very concerned about Eleanor, because she’s becoming mentally unglued. The family may begin to think that the husband is right, and Eleanor does, in fact, have mental issues.
Why would they think this? Because they probably believe that sociopaths are all deranged serial killers. If Eleanor’s husband hasn’t killed anyone, or if he isn’t violent, then she must be nuts.
Silence of the Lambs
A few days ago I watched The Silence of the Lambs. This is, of course, the movie that features Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter, the cannibalistic psychopath.
Even though the movie came out in 1991, I’d never seen it. I don’t like horror movies or scary movies, so I never wanted to. But since we spend so much time talking about how people don’t understand what a psychopath really is, I figured I needed to see the movie that created so much misinformation, so I ordered it from Netflix. I was so apprehensive that I actually had nightmares several days before watching the film.
Two things struck me about Silence of the Lambs. First, Jodie Foster was really young in the movie. Second, no wonder people think psychopaths are all brilliant, cold-blooded serial killers.
The movie won five Academy Awards, including Best Actor and Best Actress for Hopkins and Foster, along with Best Picture, Best Director and Best Adapted Screenplay. The American Film Institute named Hannibal Lecter, as portrayed by Hopkins, as the number one film villain of all time.
In the beginning of the movie, the medical director of the prison where Lecter is kept says, “Oh, he’s a monster. A pure psychopath. So rare to capture one alive.” And Lecter does display psychopathic behavior. But his behavior is so off the charts that I don’t know if there are any real-life cases as bad as he is.
Lecter is highly manipulative. The problem, however, is that his manipulation is obvious. His evil is obvious. And, of course, the guy is in prison for crimes so heinous that they put him in a straight jacket, strap him to a gurney and put a full mask on him to prevent him from literally biting someone’s head off.
I can see how the image of a psychopath from The Silence of the Lambs could be seared into someone’s brain. Unfortunately, the cartoon image of Hannibal Lecter may prevent people from identifying the real psychopaths who live among us.
After watching this movie, I feel like my decision to use the term “sociopath” on Lovefraud, instead of “psychopath,” was correct. No matter how many academic papers psychology researchers publish about the behavior of psychopaths, they’ll never be able to overcome the image of Anthony Hopkins ripping a cop’s face open with his teeth.
Red Flags of Love Fraud
Lovefraud’s goal is to educate people about sociopaths and what they’re really like, especially in intimate and family relationships. Towards that end, today I am sending my second book to the printer. It’s called, Red Flags of Love Fraud 10 signs you’re dating a sociopath. Here’s the description from the back cover:
What everyone who wants a loving relationship needs to know about social predators
Charisma, charm, so much in common and sexy too—is your romantic interest a dream date, or a sociopath? Millions of these social predators live among us, and they don’t look or act like serial killers. Rather, they present themselves as the love you’ve been waiting for all your life. Red Flags of Lovefraud identifies the clues and patterns of behavior that may indicate your partner is actually an exploiter. This book explains why you may be vulnerable, how the predators seduce you, how you become psychologically bonded, and how to break free of the trap.
I asked a former employee, whom I hadn’t spoken with in many years, to proofread the book. It turned out that she, too, married a sociopath. She told me, “If I’d read this book 10 years ago, it would have changed my life. Literally.”
My hope is that people will read the book, recognize the behaviors and realize that they’re dealing with a sociopath. My bigger hope is that people will read the book, learn the warning signs, and avoid becoming involved with a sociopath in the first place.
Explaining the behavior
But back to Eleanor she’s dealing with a husband who is full manipulation mode, trying to remove her support system by lying to her family and friends. My guess is he’s also running a smear campaign, subtly disparaging Eleanor to make her less credible.
First of all, I am really glad that Eleanor had the nerve to tell one of the counselors what her husband said. I’d be interested to know how that situation plays out —does the counselor start to get what is happening? Or does she fall for the husband’s lies again?
As far as the rest of her family is concerned, I think Eleanor needs to thoroughly educate herself about exactly what a sociopath is and how they behave. One way to do it is by reading Lovefraud carefully. She should learn about the key symptoms. She should even be able to quote some statistics about how many millions of sociopaths live among us.
Then, when appropriate opportunities arise with individual family members, she can present this information coolly and calmly. In fact, when her husband does something right out of the sociopathic playbook, she can explain how it is typical sociopathic behavior. For example, his sob story about how broken he is is an example of the pity play.
It’s important not to get upset or angry while conveying such information, because that would create the image that Eleanor is nothing but a scorned woman. People can’t listen to someone who is upset; they put up their defenses. And, presenting this information while upset could play right into the hands of the husband, who is probably saying that Eleanor is mentally unbalanced. So the best way to communicate this information is dispassionately.
What else can she do or say? Do you have any suggestions for Eleanor?
Eleanor,
When you wrote about your hubby contacting your family, pleading with them for their help. My spath did the same thing, only after we had separated. He moved out of our house (I guess to teach me a lesson). I never asked him to come back, so I’m guessing that didn’t set too well with him. While separated, he wrote letters to my sisters (who all live out-of-state), telling them how horrible I am. Fortunately, my sisters knew what I had already gone through via the spath, so they knew his letters were worthless. One sister told me that she tore the letter up and threw it away. Another sister told me that after reading his b.s., she was livid. Apparently, the spath was trying to enlist their help in getting me to treat him better. None of my siblings told me about these letters until the spath pulled his latest stunt, going on the run (from the law). These days he sits in the local jail. He’s written a total of three jailhouse letters, the first one from a jail located out-of-state (where he was caught) and the other two from the local jail, telling me and/or asking me for financial assistance, also letting me know that we could reconcile, “for the kids” sake. I don’t respond. If I were you, I would let your family know about your hubby’s true character, so that when you leave him, hopefully, they will be there to act as a support system for you.
Redwald: Wow! Such insight!! You put into words what I knew and have lived…but could not express it like you did. How counselors are deceived into believing the lies of the Psycopath.
I am sooooo sad because now I realize I did everything wrong!
When I realized what was happening, it happened all so quickly: HE WAS LETTING ME SEE WHAT HE WAS DOING TO MAKE IT HURT WORSE, but to everyone else he had the mask on..
…I was coming out of a drugged stupor AT HIS HANDS! I was absolutely in shock watching my fairytale end in the most henious way!………I was reeling at trying to find answers….I was asking myself “Where is the man I fell in love with?” I realized quickly….”that it WAS too good to be true”!! I SAW the behaviors,each one as described in the 10 traits, by looking them up on the computer….I was so in shock! So destroyed by the devalue and discard that took place over 2 DAYS! He had love- bombed me for a 6 month courtship and then 10 months of marriage only to do this to me all along???!! It was all right there,,,,screaming in my face that I had been so trusting, loving and serving while he was preparing this end for me!!
He didn’t love me, cherish me…he only wanted to destroy me and was getting PLEASURE watching it happen!!
Armed with the notes from the computer, I thought “Surely they will believe me now”!…. and I took it all … running to my friends and family…. TRYING TO SOUND THE ALARM…..as to what WE were dealing with!!!
…and I played right into his hands!!!
I later discovered he had been painting me as Borderline and “always playing the vicitm” to my family and Pastor
(his pass time was to study Psych books,often we would go to the bookstore and he would go to that section and just begin reading……I thought he was “so intelligent”….but he was studying his lines for this play! Only to use what he learned to paint me and the other previous women in his life and “diagnosing them”) Someone who never even graduated from High School, I learned later, is the Psychologist that all look to, to diagnose all these “crazy” women.
The stage was set, the play had begun!!
When I look back I looked EXACTLY as you described above, and I quote: “It’s this person [the abuser] who looks and sounds sane to me. So calm, so reasonable, so sincerely sorrowful about this whole situation; so longsuffering and patient in struggling with these marital hardships. It’s their partner who looks bonkers, out of control, hysterical, overreacting, plainly exaggerating, and with ’obvious’ anger problems!”
…. This was his “Play” his “scene” that he had studied and prepared his lines for,for months ,while I loved and served him, and I played my part perfectly…
..he studied me, he knew what hurt me, my reactions, and knew how to get me to DO exactly what was needed to turn my family and counselor and friends against me.
I write this so that others, if it is not too late…..HEED THE WORDS OF THOSE ABOVE!!
DO NOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL YOU CAN DO IT CALMLY, AND WITH GREAT WISDOM!!
Be ‘As wise as a serpent, but as gentle as a dove’.
You must out-smart them!!
You must realize very quickly what you are dealing with, and then prepared or not….you must muster all your strength to NOT be everything you are feeling inside!!!
For me. It is too late to realize these things. The Pastor/counselor believed his lies and pity and told my family,friends and church to have nothing to do with me.
….It’s been 2 years.
But if you are able…….be strong, be wise, muster everything within you because it could mean keeping your family,children and friends or YEARS OF ISOLATION.
Thank you Oxy, Redwald, Skylar, Donna…..I can’t name you all but you are all my strength,support and relationships after the Psycopath.
When it first happened and I was painted exactly opposite of everything that I believe I am, I wasn’t sure I would make it. I had thought about suicide because everything I ever lived for was ripped from me in a day. His day.
Then, to get up every day knowing that those you love do not know the truth, and that this day is another day ripped from you being with those you love, it just seemed too much!
But I have to believe there will be a day: either in this world or the next, when all the wrongs will be righted, and the lies exposed..
..and knowing he, the psycopath, would only smile and know that he truly WON,….which I am not willing to give him the pleasure! I chose instead to live, and live to the best of my ability….. some days its barely getting up…and others I see the sky, and sun and hear the birds.
I will live. I will smile. I will be stronger than his evil is evil.
It’s sad when so many of us thought that this was our fairytale……and then it only played out to be “Beauty and the Beast:BACKWARDS! His play is a nightmare….tricking us to believe we are the Princess and have finally found the one our heart has longed for….. We fell for his mask and were love-bombed only, in time, for him to turn into the beast and we were left stunned as we watch the fairytale unravel, and the fairytale turn into a nightmare….when right before us stands an ugly creature wanting to devour us! Do not let him!! Become wiser and stronger than their best acting, and make him rewrite the script where the Princess about to be devoured by the beast arises from the ashes and walks off leaving the Beast to find another to destroy……..
A song to share… Sure that we all have been there asking ourselves “Why?”, hoping to at least find support with those who’re supposed to care the most: our mother. My parents and my mother have done so, but it also reminds me how it must feel if they’re not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnMDjsnQStg
(Ben Harper – Widow of a living man)
20years and Milo,
thanks for the very entertaining posts this morning.
It’s sooo gratifying to hear stories of successful gray rock.
MiLo,
the “dog’s butt boil” had me ROTFLMAO!
Another one you could use when she calls and asks what you’re doing is, “I’m waiting for this water to boil so I can make tea.” Then you can describe every microscopic change in the water’s surface. “Oh, I think I see some tiny bubbles starting to form around the edges. I’m going to go get my thermometer.”
In essence, you are so boring that you sit around watching the water boil. It might kill her.
Another thing that I’ve implemented during tension, is laughter. They like to create drama that builds into distress and then rages. Break that up with laughter as soon as possible. Just laugh at the situation and at yourself. Spaths just don’t know what to do when you find their drama funny. They actually join in.
It’s really amazing how stupid they are, despite their often high IQ’s. The spaths who post here and on other sites, will often brag about how easy we are to manipulate because we have emotions. So what’s their excuse for being so easily manipulated?
Bellangel
Your story is mine, only I lived with him for 22 years before the mask was ripped off suddenly and it was all set in motion.
Exactly the same-I could have wrote your story myself with the same description of him.
I also did the same as you–trying to warn others that this was really a monster.
I even watched him read the psychology books thinking to myself that it was admirable to have self taught this way as he had not done well in school.
Amazing to read this. I am NOT crazy. OMG
Thanks
STJ
xxx
Sky ~ It is now so transparent, so clear to me. Once in awhile, after we hang up, she will call back saying – “Oh, I just wanted to clarify what I meant when I said such and such. I was afraid maybe you didn’t understand.”
What she is REALLY doing is attempting to take a different approach, use different “trigger” words because she realizes what she said the first time didn’t work with me.
Doesn’t work the second or third time either. My reply is usually, “Oh, I understand completely and point well taken.”
The end…. Must go now, water is starting to show a little steam and you know how I hate the tea water to be too hot.
Milo,
Oh My!
you ARE really good at this!!
It almost scares me how good you are!
😛
Sky ~ When I logically thought about the boring aspect of grey rock, I thought about conversations I had years before with my 90 something great-aunt.
She had no children and because she had never been a very nice person, no one else in the family had much to do with her. I somehow thought it was my “responsibility” to at least call her once a week to make sure she was OK and to show her someone cared.
Anyways, these phone calls would drag on for at least 30 minutes. I never got to talk. She would talk about two things, her bowel habits (in great detail) and her false teeth. I was so bored, I could not wait till the call ended and never wanted to call the next week.
I am hoping the spath will think the same thing with me, maybe even think I have lost touch with reality. Hopefully, she will move on and leave me alone. I know that these calls have absolutely nothing to do with communicating with her son, most of the calls come when he is in school and she doesn’t even ask about him.
False teeth, bowel habits, and boils on the dog’s butt.
Oh my!
Milo,
So the sacrifice that you made for your Aunt, is now paying off. That’s good Karma coming back in the most unexpected way!