By Joyce Alexander, RNP (Retired)
Psychopaths sometimes don’t know enough about how the rest of the world thinks to tell a “good” lie. I saw the following article about North Korea’s soccer team and how they had been apparently caught in a doping scandal, but were claiming that it was really an herbal medication that made them test positive for steroids.
The excuse given was that the team members had been struck by lightening and they had decided, heroically, to compete anyway. The steroids were accidentally taken with traditional Chinese medicines.
I have recently found other articles about the “stories” of the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-II, that made me laugh out loud. In one article, he supposedly played his first round of golf and scored a 38, including five holes-in-one.
One of the things I have noticed about many psychopaths, and others who frequently lie, is that their lies are so “off the wall” that no one over three years old would believe a word of them. They will “lie when the truth will fit better” is a saying I’ve heard all my life. This seems to be especially true with pathological liars and psychopaths.
Dr. Robert Hare, well-known psychopathy researcher, says that psychopaths have difficulty realizing that their lies are unbelievable, even when the evidence that they are untrue is literally in front of them. In some way, the two sides of their brains can’t connect the evidence in front of their eyes.
An example of this are the lies told by Casey Anthony when she led the police to the place she supposedly worked, even going to a cubical, when she knew that she didn’t work for that company. She also lied about leaving her daughter with “Zanny the Nanny,” when such a person didn’t exist. Anthony even led the police to the door of the empty apartment with the police in tow.
Not all liars are psychopaths, but all psychopaths are liars. Liars signal that they are not to be trusted. But if you hear a lie that is so outrageous that it makes you laugh out loud, or have the feeling that the person telling it must be “crazy—”look out! You very well may be dealing with a psychopath.
skylar
Candy,
can you verify this? If you’ve had two conflicting reports, then you can’t panic over one of them.
Don’t wobble, just remember that you have the tools to resist him. You can be gray rock. Blend into the background, don’t feed him your emotions.
Hopefully he really is far away, if not, maybe you won’t run into him. Either way, you can handle it and you have us here to help you. ((hugs))
candy
Hi Duped – thanks for the advice. It just came as a shock that’s all. Yes, I’m certainly glad he’s not in the same town.
I follow your posts and what you say hits the mark when it comes to spaths.
The cocoa went down a treat by the way (smiles)
Have a good night x
candy
Thanks Sky. The first message was a lie that HE had spread. The second is a very reliable source.
Gray rock it is Sky. Thanks.
Back_from_the_edge
Candy: I want you to be safe and happy. xxoo
skylar is right: don’t feed it your emotions. Those are what it is using you to hurt you. Don’t let IT have the privilege!
As soon as “I” found out what my “IT” was doing, I gave it the curb and it gets NO REACTION nor word and I am working on erasing the thoughts even. You are above this, candy, I know you are. You are worth wayyyy more than this. Just ignore it like the devil it is. I have learned through my experience that once you let them back in, you only pay more than you did the last time. I let mine back into my world way too many times ‘feeling sorry for it’ and that is NEVER going to happen again. I am NOT voluntarily walking back into insanity.
You follow my delirium? 🙂 hahahaha I hope sharing my journey is helping, Lovey. I would shudder to think I am coming through all this for no reason and I like to think the reason is bigger than myself. Thank you for caring enough to follow my posts. I hope that my sharing may help all of you the same way you all have been helping me. You have been holding me up, a lot of times, with your validation. And I love you all so much for this. You will never know.
Skylar is right: gray rock.
They do all kinds of evil things to us and if we just refuse to participate, it’s finished and over. If it gets ugly, you know what to do…9-1-1.
Hang in there candy and don’t let it upset you. That’s what it wants. It feeds off your upset and misery. xxoo
Happy the cocoa was good. Just WAIT for the caramel apple martini’s come Tuesday! 😉 My treat.
Back_from_the_edge
In order for us to get away from the nightmare –
We must first get away from “IT” in our minds and hearts.
This takes conditioning and to set you on your way, I wish for you to consider this:
WHY did you want to get away from “IT” in the first place?
Is it the ‘dream’ and the ‘gaslighting’ and the ‘love bombing’ giving you the basis for this feeling OR are we merely looking at what we want to see? The dream our hearts are allowing us to follow are the wonderful dreams that ‘used to be’. We just haven’t accepted that yet. THAT dream left the minute we found out that they have been duping us. Remember that betrayal the next time you start ‘missing it’. There is something wrong with “US” if we continue to blindly accept this completely unacceptable behavior, for absolutely any reason. I have more respect for myself than to the level I have been lowered and, once again, “IT” is lucky “I” am not a psychopath! (Chew on THAT ONE, DRUID!)
It might be interesting to google the word INCUBUS. (NOT THE BAND but they don’t live far from me!)…Just for fun, do it and tell me what YOU think. I have seen things in this relationship that leads me to believe this. Ugly things. I have the power of the Angels around me. I WIN! 🙂 It’s that simple. LIGHT always defeats DARKNESS. Remember that.
And, candy….let that loser walk in that darkness. Just don’t YOU follow IT! You hear me? xxoo
Thanks for making me feel special.
Right back at ya! 😉 Here is the Wiki version:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incubus
behind_blue_eyes
Duped;
“Our song” was one by Incubus…
Ana
Duped!
That is disgusting! LOL..remind me Nevah to look up that again. What I did get out of it is that the clergy was involved…need we say more? : )
Back_from_the_edge
🙂 Ana: didn’t mean to upset you. Just sharing. I think my “IT” is an incubus. They say that in ‘mythology’ they actually existed. If we recognize good we must also realize the existence of evil if we are to defeat it in all ways in our lives. RECOGNITION. There it is again. I don’t know but I get some real strange feelings about my x “IT”. I have heard things from his own mouth and know things about it’s past that makes me wonder. It is pure evil. I know it is.
Yah: imagine that ‘clergy’ involved, again. Surprising ; isn’t it? Those with the most empowerment are the least likely to subscribe to that which is sanctified. Amazing irony in our world.
Hey BBE: “ONE”; good tune!-Isn’t that Metallica?
Hope you guys are doing alright.
Love ~ Duped
behind_blue_eyes
Duped;
That song is based on “Johnny Got a Gun,” one of the best ever ant-war novels. Its premise, being mentally alive in an otherwise dead body is something I lived for a couple of hours after my open-heart surgery.
This does not typically happen, but I woke up in the recovery room with a respirator down my throat, tubes and wires everywhere, and my hands tied…
Ana
Duped,
No problem! Yes, I guess we must recogize to protect ourselves from such evil.
BBE: I read that book in high school. It was very intense!