By Joyce Alexander, RNP (Retired)
Psychopaths sometimes don’t know enough about how the rest of the world thinks to tell a “good” lie. I saw the following article about North Korea’s soccer team and how they had been apparently caught in a doping scandal, but were claiming that it was really an herbal medication that made them test positive for steroids.
The excuse given was that the team members had been struck by lightening and they had decided, heroically, to compete anyway. The steroids were accidentally taken with traditional Chinese medicines.
I have recently found other articles about the “stories” of the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-II, that made me laugh out loud. In one article, he supposedly played his first round of golf and scored a 38, including five holes-in-one.
One of the things I have noticed about many psychopaths, and others who frequently lie, is that their lies are so “off the wall” that no one over three years old would believe a word of them. They will “lie when the truth will fit better” is a saying I’ve heard all my life. This seems to be especially true with pathological liars and psychopaths.
Dr. Robert Hare, well-known psychopathy researcher, says that psychopaths have difficulty realizing that their lies are unbelievable, even when the evidence that they are untrue is literally in front of them. In some way, the two sides of their brains can’t connect the evidence in front of their eyes.
An example of this are the lies told by Casey Anthony when she led the police to the place she supposedly worked, even going to a cubical, when she knew that she didn’t work for that company. She also lied about leaving her daughter with “Zanny the Nanny,” when such a person didn’t exist. Anthony even led the police to the door of the empty apartment with the police in tow.
Not all liars are psychopaths, but all psychopaths are liars. Liars signal that they are not to be trusted. But if you hear a lie that is so outrageous that it makes you laugh out loud, or have the feeling that the person telling it must be “crazy—”look out! You very well may be dealing with a psychopath.
Yeah Duped (or NOT so duped anymore),
I’ve been dealing with a jerk, not spath but might as well be, who is so busy blaming me and angry that I don’t agree that they are superior and therefre don’t have to apologize or be considerate – and then accuse me of being selfish b/c I won’t give away my stuff.
Seeing the movie was such enjoyable FUN, not thinking of carp, and the GOOD GUYS WIN! FINALLY! Am thinking of reverting to my teenage ways and finding a poster of Mr Craig. I do hope he’s a decent person in real life.
Shalom,
I think there is POTENTIAL GOOD in most everyone…maybe even in every one….but we must make our own choices and those choices are what determine if we are caring, kind and compassionate, and empathetic or if we are unkind, uncaring, lack compassion and are unempathetic….we have CHOICES. As long as a person has the ability to know right from wrong, they have CHOICES in how they behave.
KatyDid: exacto mundo: NOT SO DUPED ANYMORE! 🙂
Sorry about the jerk in your life. Is there a difference between a jerk and a spath? I don’t think just flat out jerks try to kill people, where, on the other hand, spaths may be more prone to doing so.
Mr. Craig is certainly eye candy. Wonder if he is the person he seems to be? He just married, did he not? He reminds me sort of like George Clooney, who I refer to as: “Beautiful George”. 🙂 It seems the older he gets the more handsome he becomes. How come us chicks don’t get that same benefit? Hmmm? 😉
I will make a point of seeing the movie KatyDid and will think of you the whole while. We have to stand firm in who we are. We know who we are. We are not unreasonable, crazy, irresponsible, uncaring people. We are just the opposite, in fact. The prove in that is the fact we are seeking answers. The other part of this equation, however removed, does not care to seek solutions nor even care if we breathe or not. And that is the sad truth. The sooner we accept that betrayal, the quicker we will move along in the direction we need to be moving towards and that is: OURSELVES. Unselfishly, with compassion and caring, irregardless of the horrid nightmares we have had to survive in our lifetimes.
As wonderful and handsome as Mr. Craig and Mr. Clooney are, I find it very difficult to entertain any notion, at this point, of ever having another relationship that close to me. I let this one in after a ten year dating moratorium, while I worked on my career, because I WAS BEING A NICE PERSON. Yah, see where that lead? To mass deception. Attempted murder. Mine. With laughter and glee! That’ll sure open your eyes up!!! Let me tell ya.
If there is a demon who knocks on your door and you know it’s a demon coming to suck your soul from your body and to consume you alive, are you going to open that door because you think you can save it? Or because you ‘feel sorry for it’? IT IS OKAY TO NOT SACRIFICE OURSELVES. “Love” does not require that. Real “love” does not require us to hurt. It uses our compassion to hurt us.
That’s the thing about “B, C, D” class horror movies…if you watched them and ever recall: the characters always seem to go TOWARDS the noise. Well, why on earth would someone do that? If it was ME: I would definitely be bookin’ in the opposite direction, not towards it. And then the pretty girls always wonder why they end up in trouble!
Well, it’s kind of like that for us, in a way. I see we are all exceptional people; kind beyond explanation or comprehension; loyal and faithful people. The kind of people you wouldn’t mind having around you all the time. Positive, strong people. We are different than they are. We will always be different than they are. We have to stand up and be proud of who we are. They took a lot away from us but they sure didn’t take OURSELVES!!!
*Blessings & Hugs*
DUPED NO MORE
Katydids Thanks for the thumbs up on the cowboys and alien movie, I have been waiting for it to come out for months…and craig melts my butter too ~!
I ‘need’ this site, 1. you learn so much, you eventually get it etc, 2. when feeling vulnerable, shaky, you get support, 3. in the midst of all this cr*p, the humour is fabulous and I just find that so uplifting.
So for those who don’t post, read as I did for years/months and still do, post sometimes, I know it sounds weird but I just love all those in the cloud thank you ..Oxy, hens, skylar, candy, obe, dnm and everyone. I will probably never meet you or even talk to you but you are all madly wonderful x
So for anyone out there, please, please stay here, it has been my life saver, I thank everyone for listening!
Moveingon – heck, thanks. I sometimes think that we should all retire to the Ex Spath Funny Farm. Now wouldn’t THAT be something?! Hope life’s good in your corner of the world.
moveingon – welcome to spath rehab ~!
Wow NOT so duped.
Your post made me realize you could probably know who I am by the movies I watch. Man is tested/good prevails.
You won’t find me even renting a horror/vampire film or slasher movie or grosso whoever loves mary. But I did enjoy Bridget Jones, esp the line “that’s not good enough” when she realized what the handsome snake offered was not what she was looking for after all.
And no, I don’t see movies that I know have bad endings. Life is hard enough, why would I want to feel more loss? No war movies. Yes to adventure like Indiana Jones or James Bond (melting at memory of Daniel Craig rising out of water… that was sex in seconds but not graphic.) But no I am not interested in porno either. I also liked Johnny Cash movie and Gladiator…
Movies are also ONE way that I gave my brain a time out from when I first left my husband and all I could do was think why why why , get NO satisfactory answer, cry cry cry, sleep nightmare, wake, why why why….repeat. repeat. repeat. Good movies interrupted the pain.
Later gaters. And Hens? RE Daniel Craig. So nice that you feel the same. 🙂
Katydid I have movies I watch over and over, sometimes I keep the color purple on just for back ground noise….right after the spath made the final exit – I played March of the Penquins over and over, just crawled into bed, covered my head and let Morgan Freeman’s voice sing me to sleep….Morgan Freeman if your out there You saved my life.
Hi Candy, thanks great, hope you to, apart from the spath taking me back to court (41 times)..by the time this is over it will be longer than I was married to the idiot, it loves me sooo much.
Hey ho, I have no choice, summons etc, so in this crazy world, I just now go with the flow. I am about to whip his weird shaped arse again ..all he has to do is stop taking me to court. Wish it would simply drop dead ..thankfully I would not legally have to burn it, but it would be worth the money to make sure!!! If only!