By Joyce Alexander, RNP (Retired)
Psychopaths sometimes don’t know enough about how the rest of the world thinks to tell a “good” lie. I saw the following article about North Korea’s soccer team and how they had been apparently caught in a doping scandal, but were claiming that it was really an herbal medication that made them test positive for steroids.
The excuse given was that the team members had been struck by lightening and they had decided, heroically, to compete anyway. The steroids were accidentally taken with traditional Chinese medicines.
I have recently found other articles about the “stories” of the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-II, that made me laugh out loud. In one article, he supposedly played his first round of golf and scored a 38, including five holes-in-one.
One of the things I have noticed about many psychopaths, and others who frequently lie, is that their lies are so “off the wall” that no one over three years old would believe a word of them. They will “lie when the truth will fit better” is a saying I’ve heard all my life. This seems to be especially true with pathological liars and psychopaths.
Dr. Robert Hare, well-known psychopathy researcher, says that psychopaths have difficulty realizing that their lies are unbelievable, even when the evidence that they are untrue is literally in front of them. In some way, the two sides of their brains can’t connect the evidence in front of their eyes.
An example of this are the lies told by Casey Anthony when she led the police to the place she supposedly worked, even going to a cubical, when she knew that she didn’t work for that company. She also lied about leaving her daughter with “Zanny the Nanny,” when such a person didn’t exist. Anthony even led the police to the door of the empty apartment with the police in tow.
Not all liars are psychopaths, but all psychopaths are liars. Liars signal that they are not to be trusted. But if you hear a lie that is so outrageous that it makes you laugh out loud, or have the feeling that the person telling it must be “crazy—”look out! You very well may be dealing with a psychopath.
H2H we are still thunderbooming but the rain has stopped. We got maybe half an inch today and yesterday we got about an inch, which brings our total to 4 inches for the entire summer since the MONSOONS stopped in April….LOLso it is really desert dry here, though there are small areas where you can see they got a bit of rain in a very LOCALIZED shower. I am just fortunate that we got the localized shower this last couple of days. Even watering stuff daily I’ve had many trees large and small in my yard area die this summer….and barely keeping garden stuff alive, and then the grass hoppers eat it. Oh, well, I’ll just keep on RENDERING my adipose tissue off my butt….as the lard keeps running down my back side! LOL
Oxy ~ Sheesh, I was hoping that the rain was going to bring everything back to life for you! You’re not supposed to be in desert country in Arkansas!
I could do with a little of that RENDERING myself. It would be one heck of a way to shed some pounds. LOL
I have no yard. Rather I am turning into a dust bowl and this is the swampy area of Texas! I am a wuss and locals told me, when things dry up like this, that’s when critters look to houses for relief. I quit watering grass b/c it was a waste but still water plants and potted plants. So here I am, paranoid me… does not put on shoes without looking, does not pick up flower pots without checking for snakes, does not walk in my back yard after dark. Ya’ll have cotton mouths and copper heads. SCARY to me. From freeze my a winter to this, Oxy do ya wanna split the rent on a tent next to Hens house? I hear he has a pool.
Heck no, I am going up where SKYLAR IS OR ERIN B—they have to use heat up there at night!
It is 80 right now, though before the rain started at 7 o clock or so it was already 89! Neighbor’s trampoline blew their fence down I saw as I went to check on “Grandpa” this morning….the Meth Ho is back already (it is after the first of the month when the check comes) but though he didn’t look good, he was “okay” so I just howdy’d and came back home. Checked on my red-neck neighbors and their x-convict buddy’s RV trailer is gone in the last few days so that’s a relief at least he isn’t living right next door.
KatyD, I’ll take the snakes over the x-convicts any day!
Oxy ~ I’m with you. At least the snakes are predictable!
Good day warriors! Speaking if heat, it’s almost 100 degrees where I am. I have a question for everyone. I’ve been keeping a journal recording all my thoughts and progress. I have a question for you all:at what point dud you discovered or assume your spath was a spath? I fkind myself thinking back wondering at what point did I realize there was something pathological going on. We all had those street moments, the confusion, the abuse. But what made everyone Google sociopathy or PD? For me, socoiopath just kind of popped up into my mind. At that time I wasn’t even fully aware of exactly what it meant. Its kind if weird the way if happened. Tiptoeing and researching I began to notice that this strange Epiphany was indeed a fact. Shortly after I found LF.
Sorry my phone has a mind of it’s own with spelling. LOL
YEars ago a friend who had a son like my P son sent me a copy of WITHOUT CONSCIENCE (Dr. Bob Hare’s book about psychopaths) and I started seeing that my SPERM DONOR was a PSYCHOPATH….but took much longer to realize my P-son also was a psychopath. Then in 2006-7 when he sent a Trojan Horse Psychopath to kill me and I realized what was going on, That was when I started to really learn and APPLY what I learned about psychopathy. In January 2006 I had gone NC with P son, at least I did not visit him in prison any more after that time. I didn’t want to see him any more.
Ox, why do so many people have such a hard time accepting? Why dies everyone think I’m the one that’s crazy? The facts are all over the net for others to see.
FarWronged
Great question.
There were all these questions I had about the guy I was dating. He said things and did things that were totally incongruent. So I spent a lot of time researching HIM personally finding out what was true and what wasn’t (court documents, military documents, public information, stuff on line) so that I really really knew the truth about facts.
Once I understood the FACTS, then I started using google search for personality profiles. Anti-social personality disorder, schizoid personality disorder……but they were dry, and the language about this disorder really confused me.
Then I stumbled on to this site, glommed on to the word “sociopath” and things started making sense. Then I started down the path of every book that was ever written and I ordered it from Amazon and read it.
I’m no-contact with my narc Mom, and I’m not looking back.
I struggle with no-contact with my spath. How he lies the way he does just blows my mind. It just flows out his mouth without even trying. I worked “so hard” to win this guy over, I’m competitive, I gave it everything I got. And now I look at who he is, and I think, are you kidding me? Yuck.
Anyway, it is about me. He brought excitement and drama to my life, and he showered me with compliments and attention that were false. Of course it’s hard to recouperate.
The intelligence I gleened from the people here, the support I feel, I know I need to make changes with myself and build a better life for myself that doesn’t include damaging myself by exposing myself to his behavior.
I’ve never allowed anything as self destructive to happen to me as a spath before. I’m not going to let it beat me.
Superkid