A Lovefraud reader asked me what I thought of advice offered on a website called “Womensdivorce.com.” In a post about relationships after divorce, the website says women should start dating as soon as possible. It also seems to advocate that women engage in brief sexual affairs, and find a transitional partner who can help a woman heal, but whom she shouldn’t marry.
Read Your first relationship after divorce, on Womensdivorce.com.
My reaction is that this advice may be okay for someone involved in one of those amicable divorces, where the partners simply grew apart, are still on speaking terms or even friends, and want what is best for their children. The advice is terrible for someone who has been heavily damaged by marriage to a sociopath.
People who have endured marriage to a sociopath need time—perhaps a lot of time—to rebuild themselves. Healing may have two distinct dimensions.
Recovering from the sociopathic relationship
First, you need to recover from the sociopathic relationship. The difficulty of the recovery depends on the psychological damage done.
I now know that I was relatively lucky in the type of predator that found me, although it sure didn’t seem that way at the time. My ex-husband, James Montgomery, only wanted my money. He lied to me, he used me, he betrayed me—but he didn’t try to destroy me. When my money was gone, he just abandoned me.
Many Lovefraud readers had experiences that were far worse than mine. Some of you endured physical and sexual violence, gaslighting, threats and brainwashing. Some of you continue to suffer because you have children with the sociopath, and your ex purposely tries to use the children to hurt you.
If you are raw from one of these extremely damaging relationships, the last thing you should do is try to find a new partner. Instead, you need to focus on personal healing.
The first step is to take care of yourself physically—eat well, find time for exercise, avoid drugs and alcohol, get enough sleep. You also need to rebuild emotionally. There are two different paths of emotional recovery. One is allowing yourself to grieve, and feel the anger and pain. The other is finding ways to bring joy into your life, however small. Nourishing encounters with friends and family whom you can trust will help.
You’ll find many articles to assist you in this section of the Lovefraud Blog: Healing from a sociopath.
People often ask, how long should it take to recover? There is no standard answer to this question. Recovery takes as long as it takes. But until you are feeling stronger and healthier, it is best not to get involved in another romance.
Here’s an important reason why: Sociopaths target vulnerable people. If you are not yet healed, you are vulnerable, and a prime target for another sociopath.
Recovering from deeper injury
Many Lovefraud readers, as you make your way through recovery, have realized that the marriage to a sociopath was not the first damaging relationship in your life. There was an older, deeper injury that made you susceptible to the sociopath in the first place.
Some of you recognize that a previous romantic relationship was exploitative. Some of you realize that one or both of your parents were disordered. For you, the games sociopaths play may have seemed normal, because that’s what you grew up with.
The pain caused by the most recent partner may cause you to realize that you have a long history of mistreatment. In fact, sometimes recognizing trauma in your past helps clear up one of the big mysteries of involvement with a sociopath. It answers the question, “Why did I allow this predator into my life?”
There may even be spiritual reasons for the dangerous encounter, which I talk about in my book, Love Fraud—How marriage to a sociopath fulfilled my spiritual plan. So before looking for love again, you need to recover from the sociopath, and you need to recover from any deeper traumas as well. Thankfully, you can do both at once. The process is the same as described above—slow physical and emotional healing.
So as you walk the road to recovery, be careful about listening to advice from others. As we well know, most people have no clue about what it’s like to be involved with a sociopath. They have not walked in your shoes, so however well meant, their suggestions may not be helpful or healthy for you.
Cazzy:
Wow, your experience sounds somewhat like mine. Not as long and I wasn’t as young, but some of the similarities. So sorry you had to deal with that. You said it’s been two years and you still hurt. I understand that. It’s been 19 months since I first started up with mine (I knew of him at work before that, but didn’t start talking to him until 19 months ago). It’s been almost four months with no contact and it still really hurts. It takes a long time to get over being psychologically damaged by these predators.
What you said about him telling his girlfriend that you were obsessed with him, etc…that is EXACTLY what my X spath told me about the OW in triangulation with me!! He said that she was stalking him and she became obssessed with him! She was stalking him and she was obssessed with him, but he instigated it. And now I can only imagine that he has done or is doing the same thing with me! Oh, my, what he must be saying to people about me because I wrote him a very long letter and told him how I felt. I am sure he has told people the same thing…I am obsessed with him, I send him letters, blah, blah, blah. I can only hope and pray that the people who he is telling these things know what he is like and they see through it, BUT…they probably don’t. They are probably just as taken and are probably believing what he is saying. It’s so frustrating.
You hang in there. It takes a long time to heal, but you will get there. My heart goes out to you.
Hi Louise and one joy,
Thank you so much for listening to what I had to say. Yes One joy, I am new here. I found this website and I have been reading all the symptoms and other victims stories and it has helped me to realise I am not alone.
I first met the spath at a young age and 8 years later, am still being mentally tormented by him. We haven’t exactly been involved but it is all the mind games and stuff which stresses me out. He seems to like to have control over everyone and everything, and likes to seperate his friends to certain groups so others do not find out about each other.
Spaths don’t give a damn about lying to anyone, and will say ANYTHING I mean ANYTHING to get out a sticky situation. I to this day still feel lonely and abandoned… and unworthy because even though I have had a tonne of pain shifted on me, I never got a “relationship” out of it. Which quite frankly was my hearts desire. I am now in my early 20s and I have never had a boyfriend because I have always been so focused on him. I feel socially retarded and miserable.
Even people I know get pissed at me, but they just don’t know what I have been through. BEcause we “never went out” they say I have no right to be hurting and I should have been over it a long time ago. I get really pissed off when I see people who break up from someone only to 5 mins later go off with a new gf/bf and declare their love for them. To be I feel like they never loved the person in the first place. I have never been like that. My heart is too loyal.
One joy, this is the thing! He says he doesn’t get on with him mum and she kicks him out etc.. but then when it is his birthday his mum is out all socialising with his mates and everything. If she was such a psycho then why?? He is always trying to move into girls houses and always claims he has nowhere to stay or resents if he has to crash at his mums, like she’s some monster!
The girlfriend he is with at the moment, he lied about having a gf to me and tried to come onto me. I threatened to find out who the gf was, and then when I said even before I could tell her SHE emailed me calling me a jealous stalker saying I need help. He told his gf I tried to commit suicide and all this other shit which is not true. So I told her the truth byt they are still together. They flaunt their relationship in my face and are all over each other on social networking sites (I love you… no i love you more… no I love you more +1… you log off… no you log off tee hee) all that rubbish! If I was truly in love, I wouldn’t be doing that!
Ahh thanks for listening. It is horrible because I can sense my friends are getting annoyed with me for not moving on and annoyed with having to listen but I wish I could turn these feelings off!
cazzy: welcome and sorry for your experiences so young with a P. I got snared with one in high school, wound up marrying him, had two kids by him and divorced before I was 21. While I was in the hospital near death with the first child, he was making the young nurse. He slept with my friends and everyone he could get. He deserted my kids and me, never saw nor supported them after the divorce. So…I relate. Not good that we started our young years in the clutches of a psychopath! They do something to our hearts and minds that SEEM irreparable. Well, the good news is: it’s NOT! Unforgettable, yes. We’ve been walking arm and arm with the devil and that’s bound to be a life changing event. GREAT that you are not married, engaged or have children by him. KEEP that as it is! DO NOT allow him to snare you with any type of commitment or children to keep you tethered. First of all to break free of this ‘spell’ and it is a bewitching mind blow. First they engage the heart and then they control the mind. You must take back your mind and you can only do that with NO contact and that includes even hearing about him or looking at facebook photos etc. Just as if he never existed, because he didn’t. Just his fake facade spin was all you ever really met/had. Begin to work on screwing your head back on straight. Lots of reading material here on this site, much needed emotional/verbal support to validate and move you thru ‘withdrawal’ and of course the wonderful book, many of us carried and still do with us daily, Women Who Love Psychopaths, available here. Good luck on your JOURNEY of freedom and we are all here to help you become a free person. Hugs!
cazzy – i apologize for misreading your name. (yet more proof that although early is not the best time for me to post (although it is when i have time)!)
you describe a spath – right down to the smear campaign. this fellow is classic. the good news is that many of us have survived and healed from classic spaths, so you can too.
You have had a couple of good suggestions of books to read, and kathleen Hawks’ series here, also.
because you have a lot of awareness already of how he manipulates, you are ahead of the game. now the work needs to be on you and how you let go and move on. I have PTSD (in large part because of the spath experience) and I am getting treatment for it, and it has helped get me out of the ruts in my mind regarding the pain of it all. I am using neurofeedback, but there are many ways.
about your friends – #1 it isn’t about their lives, so they can sod off. #2 most of us have lost friends in the healing process. it’s another little gift from the spaths! #3 this isn’t like healing from an ordinary relationship, even a bad one – it’s more complicated and takes longer. #4 YOU were in a relationship with a sociopath. claim that. it will make it easier for your head. #5 know in your own heart that it has affected you deeply, and that you have the right and responsibility to take the time and measures needed to heal – your friend can either get that and be there for you or they can refer to #1.
Keep posting. Lots of wisdom and experience on LF, and people will help. Reading is very important. Educate yourself. Knowledge truly is power. You don’t have to stay tied to this spath – you can be free and happy. It will change.
Dear Cazzy,
You may not have had a CONVENTIONAL”relationship” with him, but you had a relation-SHIT with him, because you cared about him.
So your friends do not understand….and you can’t make them understand, it was an EMOTIONAL relation-shit, not a physical or sexual one, but even as a “friend” it is an emotional tie.
The best way to get over all this, to HEAL is to realize that while the relationSHIT on YOUR part was GENUINE, on his it was only a FAKE–he is NOT going to be kind and caring and genuine to anyone, he is not going to love anyone, he will have sex with them and use them but he is irresponsible, he is a liar, and you deserve better.
Anyone can have a new boyfriend every night if they will LOWER THEIR STANDARDS to go out with the worst wino or drug addict and not expect to be treated well…that’s not what you deserve, you deserve better, you deserve to be treated well. If others are willing to put up with bad treatment, then that is their problem, but you do not have to lower yourself to that level.
YOU CAN TAKE CHARGE OF YOUR OWN LIFE, and make yourself happy!
Welcome to LoveFraud, there are some great folks here and some great information. God bless.
hey oxy, i think that cazzy did have a sexual relationship with her spath (from her post: ‘A few weeks later he comes back begging over to me wanting to see me again. Of course he will meet up with me, get as much as he can sexually or emotionally out of me, then not call me for weeks. ‘) My read is that her friends don’t think it was ‘real’ because he was not in a ‘committed relationship’ aka traditional relationship with her (and we all know what that crap is about!).
Cazzy-welcome to LF. Your man was the classic spath and thank GOD you are away from him. I understand how it takes so long to heal. You do lose friends from the healing process because it is not their life and they aren’t the ones being duped/conned by a spath. Getting over the relationshit with them takes way longer than normal guys, even shitty asshole guys. It is a big relief that you don’t have kids or any permanent ties to him. Just make sure that you don’t fall for any manipulations, know matter WHAT he tries-if he shows up again.
It took me 2 years to get over mine. I lost friends because of the relationship and after because they thought I needed to just “get over it already”. A lot of times you have PTSD and it’s very traumatic. One thing you have to remember is that there is a really strong attachment based on the sex-especially since he was the first. Oxytocin, the bonding hormone is released from it and most of us normal people are very affected by that-spaths, not so much, more like not affected. It causes you to get so tied to them emotionally and becomes like an emotional addiction-loaded with drama.
I know that’s what happened to me-you get emotionally bonded and then you feel like you can’t resist them and you are afraid of the pain that it would cause from ending the relationship-even if you were emotionally damaged from the way he is treating. Please stay on here a lot and read articles and posts from all of us here-you are already way ahead in the game since you have officially realized WHAT he is-an IT, not a real person. They are shallow, hollow shells of people with no emotions unless they mirror the ones that they see from you. They have no empathy and are incapable of feeling real love. I really hope that you feel better.
Thanks for the correction One/joy, but you know, sex or no sex, it is still a relation-SHIT (I love Hens for that addition to the LF vocabulary!) because it is ALL one sided, we care for them, they care for us NOT!
Hi Twice betrayed, Ox and Elizabeth, thank you so much for your comments and listening to me and making me feel welcome 🙂 You’re right, knowledge is power. I have read The Sociopath next door by Martha Stout, but the reason why I always find it hard to relate to again is because people were actually in a conventional relationship(SHIT LMFAO) or married to the spath. And yes, we were involved sexually, he is my first and only to this day.
Obviously I have been very naieve always trying to get the benefit of the doubt with people, but I suppose because I wanted things with him to work so badly, I put up with anything and everything. If we were out with mutual friends, he would always ignore me then in private be all over me. Yet his gf he is with at the moment, he is proud of her and brings her out with his mates and shows her off. I just felt like after all the years I knew him I DESERVED to get my chance of a relationship yet a girl he has known for 5 minutes get the chance.
After the mother of his child left to live in another country (I WONDER WHY!), I thought we would finally be together, but he ditched me to go out with another girl (tall skinny blonde, 6 foot has her own house etc…) and it really knocked my confidence. I couldn’t eat or sleep I could not concentrate at work. I ended up quitting my job because of the stress. I just wanted to leave town, it was horrible.
What makes it worse is I am not added to him on facebook, but we do have mutual friends and whether he is blocked or not, all the photos come up, and as f**ked up as it sounds, I am jealous with them flaunting their relationship over the internet. If you really love somebody you don’t write “i love u” “pretty baby i love you i love you xxxxx” every day on someones profile.
I dunno there is something really fake about the relationship he is in. I know it is an illusion and a facade, but it is really bothering me everyone else is buying it. The funny thing is a lot og people don’t like the spath and say mean things behind his back but they all go out together and act like best buds in the world. It is all 2 faced.
Twice betrayed, I read your post and I really do feel your pain. As messed up as it sounds, I am STILL jealous that you were at least “together” in the first place. I am assuming you got love bombed and swept off you feet? I never even got that!
Even my close friends who know what he is like who don’t like him, I feel like I will have to cut contact with them because even though they don’t hang out with him, they know someone who is friends with him you know. It is like it is never ending. I feel incomplete all the time, I am never happy even with friends I still feel lonely. A lot of the time I have wished I was dead. I just want my life back!
Dear Cazzy,
You have to be the one to TAKE BACK your life. No one can hand it to you on a plate, and even if he had had a relationship with you, it would have only been WORSE!
As for these “friends” who hang out and talk about each other behind their backs, that is childish stuff and not REAL ADULT FRIENDS, so brush that childish stuff off you like cat hair and let it float away.
REAL FRIENDS are responsible, truthful and kind, they don’t behave that way so anyone who does isn’t your real friend. If you lose them, you haven’t lost anything valuable. (((Hugs)))