According to researchers, not all pedophiles molest children. And not all child molesters are pedophiles. Now, many experts view pedophilia as a deep-rooted disposition, much like heterosexuality or homosexuality.
Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia, on LATimes.com.
I made my own bleu cheese dressing last week. Wow. It was so good. Buttermilk, sour cream, mayonaisse, blue cheese crumbles, fresh cracked black pepper, a touch of paprika and cayenne, worcestershire and ground mustard. then, because I had buttermilk left over, I made Ranch. same start: Buttermilk, sourcream, mayo, but then, lots of fresh parsley, dill and chives. I had a poached chicken breast left over after making gumbo, so I made a Buffaloe-blue pasta salad with celery, onion, and carrot, blue cheese and ranch dressing.
Raggedy Ann, my point in addressing your comments were specifically as Kim Frederick pointed out, above: readers who are compelled to find this site do so because of their experiences with very, very disordered people. MANY of the readers on this site experienced child sexual assault and regular molestation, and your comments are triggering for these people, and others who might be particularly raw.
You are, indeed, typing a great deal of word-salad that, taken as it’s written, inflammatory on THIS site. If you wish to support “data” that will, in essence, provide an ample opportunity for PREDATORS to play the “Label Card” as a defense for their deliberate actions, it may be more appropriate to take such discussion to a blog or discussion forum where HEALING and RECOVERY isn’t the primary goal.
Good gosh, but it seems like I’ve put too much water on my plants, today.
Kim Frederick, yes, the bleu cheese dressing goes well with spring mix, though I prefer homemade Russian which combines mayo, relish, and ketchup and then I whisk it all up and sometimes I use sour cream while other times I don’t but it’s all Russian dressing when I spoon it over spring mix but sometimes I use romaine…..ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
Kim……in two words: YOU ROCK
“It’s not your fault, but you must be held responsible.” I think that’s what spaths say to us. Actually, they say that it is our fault, it’s never their fault — even when it is. Either way, it doesn’t matter because WE must be held responsible, regardless of whose fault it is.
The fact is, we ARE all responsible for the existence of spaths. We HAVE enabled them. We DO participate in this spathy society with its spathy values (or lack of values). We imitate spaths, or the Jones, or whoever happens to be on reality TV this week. We pay attention to spaths, we allow ourselves to be scandalized by them, we watch them on Oprah, we FAIL to shun people who behave badly.
pass the bleu cheese dressing, please. I’m having a baby arugala salad.
Sky, the Hollow water community projects make sense in a tribal or small community setting where there IS A COMMUNITY, unfortunately, in today’s society “community” means very little and what the “community” thinks doesn’t mean squat to most folks. LOL
OxD, even in smaller tribal and tightly knitted communities, there are always power struggles and machinations for control, status, wealth, and (most of all) power. But, you’re 100% spot-on that the smaller communities are more successful in managing “bad people,” even disordered leaders.
When I studied sociology in college, it was a VERY interesting run of courses. People are more like “herd” animals until disorder comes into the picture and they revert to more of a rabid “pack” mentality. It’s the “rabid” kind of behavior, rather than the cooperative behavior that is typically found in wolf packs.
Get a group of pedophiles together, and it’s the most toxic of all “packs” imaginable. Predatory behavior within this “disorder” are choices. They know what they are doing is illegal and amoral which is why they work so feverishly to cover up their crimes and intimidate their victims into silence.
Skylar, I agree that we are responsible to shun sociopathic individuals and behaviors that promote damages and negativity. No, I don’t believe that human nature will ever allow for a New Age, feel-good society because there are too many variables, now. Technology plays an ENORMOUS role in generating sociopathy – things that were once taboo or required to accomplish, in person, can now be found and done over the internet and cell phones. Television programming, the movie industry, and advertising media has more-or-less removed every boundary of decency and replaced morals and ethics with promotional nonsense that encourages bad behaviors and abandonment of conscience, empathy, and remorse. It’s just incredible, to me, how this society has dissolved into utter chaos in the span of 50 years.
There is yet another new “reality” television program that will be aired on A&E that had me SO rattled that I sent the promotional link to Donna called, “Southie Rules.” The promotional for this “entertainment” has a family of 3 generations in South Boston living together under the same roof. These people speak to one another using the most abusive, belittling, humiliating, and harmful words, AND they openly strike one another in the face, head, arms, and who-knows-where-else. THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT?!
So, we ARE responsible for the condition of our current society with regard to spaths. Now, the question is how can that pendulum be made to swing back towards the center? Before the collapse of every great empire, morals, ethics, common sense, accountability, and conscience fell by the wayside.
Shunning is a start. But, it’s something that must begin on the immediately local level: shun those around us that INTEND TO HARM OTHERS. Then, shun on a greater level – politicians and regional leaders must be called to the mat for their larcenies, etc Shun product manufacturers that support reality TV programming – DO IT. Just because we like the smell of a certain detergent doesn’t mean that we MUST purchase that product, especially if that company’s advertising dollars support the spread of “bad behaviors.”
There’s what’s right, and there’s what’s wrong, and there’s what lies in between. If it’s wrong, any association with whatever it is makes me culpable. I’m all for shunning on a global level.
Brightest blessings
Truthy, for what it is worth, I buy American products IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, unfortunately too many products are no longer made in the USA, radios, TVs, light bulbs, etc. and most clothing.
I would shun advertisers of programs I think are bad…but since I don’t watch those programs I don’t know all the ones to not buy from….LOL Of course my 2 cents of business is not going to put these people out of business. LOL But you are right— COLLECTIVELY to boycott the advertisers of these shows and let the companies know it, would make a difference.
The “Jerry Springer” show BTW is fake, but that show does promote that life style as acceptable…I haven’t seen the show but have seen promos of that about the little chubby girl “honey boo boo” and it makes me want to puke. And the one about the teenage moms
Thiis whole case is a terrible scandal from start to finish
Disgraced teacher Debra Lafave BACK on probation for having sex with 14-year-old student
* She was dealt a ten-year suspended sentence in 2005 for sex with pupil
* But punishment was frozen in 2011 to care for cancer-stricken mother
* Lafave: I spent my year of probation taking care of her and I’m so fortunate
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PUBLISHED: 02:02 EST, 25 January 2013 | UPDATED: 10:14 EST, 25 January 2013
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Disgraced teacher Debra Lafave, the woman convicted of having sex with a 14-year-old student is officially back on probation amid protests from the victim’s family.
The 32-year-old was dealt a ten-year suspended sentence in 2005 for a string of sexual encounters with a pupil at Angelo L. Greco Middle School in Temple Terrace, Florida.
But the punishment was frozen by a retiring judge to allow her to help care for her newborn twin sons as well as her cancer-stricken mother in 2011.
On Thursday, however, she was put back under Federal supervision to see out the remaining four years and two months of her sentence.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268050/Disgraced-teacher-Debra-Lafave-BACK-probation-having-sex-14-year-old-student.html#ixzz2J0L6EqBc
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Kim Fredericks you wrote:
“Raggedy, and I never said anything about sexual orientation. What I see happening here is a confusing mix of triggering issues, and a lot of seemingly rational arguments that are an amalgamation of word salad. Please pass the ketchup”.I mean bleu cheese.”
This whole *thread* is about sexual orientation: that of pedophiles. My own point in using that language, and part of my original point, was that transcending that orientation is as impossible as it is for a straight person to become oriented toward their own gender or for me or you to start desiring children. It’s significantly harder than the “working around lack of attraction” when one is still dealing with someone in their own orientation (me with a guy, for example).
Of course these are triggering issues. The article itself contains triggering content, as to many peoples accounts of their own experiences. That comes with reading this website and is not something I am provoking on purpose. I’m sorry you find what I wrote to be a word salad and that things seem rational to you and then don’t. I was trying to be thorough in my responses to what people said where I saw what appeared to be holes in their own arguments. I don’t think “word salad” means what you think it means.
Truthspeak, you wrote:
“Raggedy Ann, my point in addressing your comments were specifically as Kim Frederick pointed out, above: readers who are compelled to find this site do so because of their experiences with very, very disordered people. MANY of the readers on this site experienced child sexual assault and regular molestation, and your comments are triggering for these people, and others who might be particularly raw.
You are, indeed, typing a great deal of word-salad that, taken as it’s written, inflammatory on THIS site. If you wish to support “data” that will, in essence, provide an ample opportunity for PREDATORS to play the “Label Card” as a defense for their deliberate actions, it may be more appropriate to take such discussion to a blog or discussion forum where HEALING and RECOVERY isn’t the primary goal.
Good gosh, but it seems like I’ve put too much water on my plants, today.”
I think perhaps your issue is with Donna, for posting this article at all. I don’t think I said anything that isn’t also in the article, especially the input of the psychiatrist.
Yes, people, including me, read things that are triggering here. But you appear at the outset to have been triggered by these scientific findings themselves. I asked earlier what there is to be done about scientific findings. Perhaps Donna should not have posted the article at all, nor similar articles about the brains of sociopaths or mentally ill people…? I definitely wouldn’t agree — I think all of these things offer the possibility of coming to better understanding of things that have happened to us at other people’s hands. Donna may choose to single me out for censoring — I would find that puzzling, but you could suggest it to her. If she doesn’t, I encourage you specifically to shun me when I post, even addressing you — since you are apparently a proponent of shunning, and you already announced that you weren’t get into an on line discussion with me, and believe me harmful and ill-intentioned.
Perhaps the rest of the mini mob of mean girls posting mocking jokes about salad could follow suit.
I’m here because I belong, like anyone else who has been traumatized by disordered abusers. I’ll continue to point out where I think someone’s arguments or information are flawed.