Last week found me involved in an unusually high number of conversations about sociopathy. By now I’m no stranger to explaining my own experiences to incredulous people and then patiently answering their questions and putting in to plain words the fact that no, a sociopath will not even begin to know the meaning of the word ”˜sorry’ let alone feel it!
“But surely Mel, I know if I’d done something even remotely as heartless as the person you’ve just described… well, I’d be eaten up with guilt! I couldn’t sleep at night!” they exclaim, eyes wide open and hands held to their face. “Surely deep down they must know they’ve done wrong and feel ashamed?”
Each time I hear that kind of response, I just smile, take a deep breath and prepare to explain in yet another way that no — these people simply don’t have the same responses that we do. They are devoid of conscience and empathy, they don’t feel sorry for the things they do, and in actual fact they don’t ”˜feel’ emotions in the same way we do — period!
And that is where I believe it can be such a challenge for those of us to know to get others to believe what we’re saying. Because, as the French author Anais Nin so eloquently put it “We don’t see things as they are; we see them as we are” And of course it makes perfect sense. We use our own judgment and experiences to make sense of the world around us, and because we have a set of emotions and responses, we expect other human beings to have something similar.
The Looking Glass
This perfectly natural trait of human acceptance is also a response on which con-artists and tricksters depend. They’ll target honest open people who judge others as they judge themselves — and because they wouldn’t dream of deliberately conning another, they can’t comprehend that the person in front of them is anything other than who or what they profess to be. A variation on the old theme of “do as you would be done by” it’s a case of “understand according to your own experiences”. And when you think about it, how can anyone really be expected to understand other than from their own experiences?
It’s like, say, when we’re having a conversation with a friend and they’re explaining something they’ve seen or somewhere they’ve been without us for example. When things don’t quite make sense, we might screw up our face, scratch our chin, and search through our memory banks until we find something in our own experience that seems somewhat similar. Then we can make sense of what they’re saying and we say “ah, yes, now I know what you mean! You’re saying it’s like”¦ blah blah”¦”
A disco mirror-ball invites us to do something similar. The broken up little squares might promise me a new perspective — but when I look in to it the reflection is still always the same. It’s me. How could it be anything else?
I remember when my discovery of the nature of sociopaths suddenly made ghastly sense of what had happened to me. I remember the horror as well as the relief. The burning need to learn more and yet the impossible struggle to grasp that such alien creatures actually live and breath among us – let alone that I was married to one! I just couldn’t get it! It was only after trawling through so many incidents that had left me hurt and bewildered, only after mentally finding a number of examples for each of Dr Hare’s checklist subjects that I could finally let the truth settle.
So, there I was, only truly believing it once I had made sure with my own internal reference points!
It’s Just Not Me!
Blinkered? Foolish? Or just following my natural instinct to see others as we see ourselves? The jury may be out on that one, but I plump for the last option — because I happen to believe it’s the truth.
That’s how we can remain duped for so long. That’s how they can get away with their repetitive and increasingly outrageous bad behaviour. That’s why when they plead and say sorry, we believe that they are — because that’s how we would respond ourselves if we were in their shoes!
And that is why, for those of us who know, it’s such an uphill battle and constant struggle to convince others that what we’re saying is true. That’s why I regularly heard a set of questions that at the time felt like accusations “But if all this was really going on behind your back, how on earth didn’t you notice anything?” “Why didn’t you check more closely?” Because I would never have imagined behaving in that way, that’s why. Because I believed that the love was real. Because I’ve jolly well got values and a solid understanding of right and wrong — that’s why for goodness sakes!
And yes, I know and fully understand all that now, but at the time it was happening I felt that I was being attacked all over again. If somebody didn’t believe me, then surely it meant that I wasn’t worthy of being believed. If another person was so convinced that I should have noticed something, well then perhaps it meant that I was stupid. The shame kicked in, the self-doubt reared inside me, and I’d slink down to hide myself from the humiliation.
But the thing is, though, how could I have expected someone who hadn’t actually been in my place to understand something that I even struggled with myself — and I’d been the one in the firing line!
I can’t go back in time — well, not yet in any case, so far as I know time travel is still something that has yet to be mastered — but if I could I know now that I would have been much better protected against the innocently persistent questions that were thrown at me by well meaning friends and colleagues. They weren’t doubting me — they were just trying to understand something that was so completely out of their sphere of reference, it just didn’t make sense. But at the time, my response was to recoil and shut up. Drawbridge up, shutters down, and don’t say another word.
These days it’s different. These days I have achieved sufficient distance to answer any number of questions calmly and with compassion. I welcome the questions as an opportunity to test my ability to explain. To strengthen my mental flexibility and to deepen my comprehension.
And with each new conversation, I find I’m becoming better equipped to answer and educate — maybe not to the level of the full experiential comprehension that we share here on this site of course; I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. But slowly, surely, I do believe that it’s possible to find ways to help the unsuspecting and incredulous understand and take heed. And I believe that it’s the likes of us, those who’ve been there seen it and got the T-shirt who can become hugely influential in getting the message out there. I realise there’s a long way to go, but the crusade is growing — and I have a feeling in my soul that little by little the worm is turning.
So watch out spaths, psychos and all you other misfits. You can run but you can’t hide for ever, because ready or not we’re coming to get you.
Dupey
I too have collected words and phrases.
You turned a very nice phrase that goes in my collection: “feast your starving soul.”
That is SO right. Our souls are starving after being drained dry for far too long. Great phrase girlie.
ps Add me to your list of well wishers. I have some severe health issues too, which I stupidly revealed here on LF, but have since stopped discussing. Only to say, I understand what you’ve gone through and myself was only able to stop the freefall when I got to a more emotionally healthy place. We can’t stop the consequences but we can stop the freefall!
KatyDid,
I’m sorry to hear about you, too 🙁 Why did you say “stupidly revealed here on LF?” I’m just curious. Was someone giving you a hard time?
It was so necessary for me to go NC not only with him, but his family as well in order to get to a more emotionally healthy place. Sometimes I feel guilty about my daughter not having more people around us, but I also feel like it’s more important to have a select few of chosen individuals who are healthy than to have a large extended family that is disordered and pyschologically harmful to her development. Quality vs. quantity kind of thing. I believe I’m doing the right thing. Sometimes it’s difficult because I only have the daycare center and a paid nanny to rely on for support, but I keep telling myself that it’s better than people who REALLY make us “pay” for their “help.”
Paris and OneDay, Let me belatedly say “welcome” to you both….I’m glad you found your way here to LoveFraud. It has “saved” many of us from that terrible feeling of being “alone” in what has happened to us. There are many sisters and brothers here who have shared your experiences, your terror, your pain, your grief, your confusion. This is a wonderful place to sort it out and to learn and to acquire knowledge which =s POWER!
Welcome to our “club”—one no one wants to have to join, but the best one there is if you NEED to join! (((hugs))) and God bless.
KatyDid: Sorry you have health issues as well. I know all about what it is like coming through all this with health issues!
Sometimes I think that’s why they targeted us: ‘easy prey’; hey?
Already on the down and out…easier to kick than someone strong enough to handle themselves…like a vulture picking bones is what it reminds me of.
Yes, my soul has been absolutely STARVING since I met “IT”.
It didn’t get easier and more calm and relaxed as our relationship went along, it got more ugly and more violent. And, “I” am actually expected to believe any of the love bombing and gas lighting was nothing more than a ploy? Hm?
Thanks for the well wishes…
I will say prayers and send wishes your way as well.
Oh yes, that ‘free fall’ is one heck of a drop; ain’t it?
Luckily it’s padded when you finally smack the bottom.
You smack the bottom by recognizing what this has all been and you decide it’s time to move on and forward and to carry one heck of a HUGE STICK! xxoo
{And that emotionally healthy place deep inside….}
~ Blessings to you ~ Dupey
Thanks for the warm welcome. Yes, the ability to compartmentalize things so well, and the ability to be so “logical” and the word-splitting. Those things alarm me.
Can I just share something for a second, and say that I feel this is so crazy to ask but — I have noticed something, and now I am afraid that I may be getting paronoid. BUT I need to share this.
I’m the only person who drinks coffee in my house. I have a special coffee maker that brews coffee 1 cup at at time. My husband got me this coffee maker last year. He has a habit of filling it up with water from time to time. Sometimes I notice it is all filled up for me in the morning. I wonder why he takes the time to do this when he is so REMOVED from me in other ways (emotionally). We’ve been having some major problems for awhile now. Anyway. The thought has occured to me more than a few times. This thought is a horrible thought, and it’s almost embarrassing to share but that thought is — WHAT if he is putting something in my coffee water? How horrible to think this, but YET it’s not so far out of the realm of things. This is awful, yet I think that it COULD happen because I’ve experienced some things that I thought could NEVER happen and they have. So I basically have this idea that nothing is out of the realm of possibility.
We’ve been having major trouble lately, and we have considerable assets that could be divided in the case of a divorce. Quite substantial as in multiple homes, and other assets. We have these assets and yet he gets highly CRITICAL when I toss out an empty tube of tooth paste (and I do mean EMPTY to core). So he is majorly a miser, and attached to THINGS as well as IMAGE. Sure, it would be so so so much easier if I wasn’t in the picture any longer. This is horrible, I know. But these thoughts have crossed my mind.
He is also very worried about me LEAVING him. He saw a part-time job opportunity as a THREAT to him. I thought it would be a good way for me to get some exp., and to meet people, etc. He basically told me that he thought that I get this job and it’s my way of saying, “F-you, I’m outta here!” HE tells me this. Naturally my sense of esteem is low — I feel damned if I do, damned if I don’t.
Yet he goes off to work each day as a normal person.
I would like to get the water tested. Can anyone tell me how, and also, ease my mind about these thoughts?
Thank you.
Oneday,
as someone who was poisoned for over 20 years, I can’t ease your mind. Maybe a hidden video camera can do that.
Are you experiencing any physical symptoms?
Spaths are crafty and conniving. My spath said, “you would be so EASY to poison because you take so many vitamins supplements.” That was a tell and a misdirection because in fact, he was poisoning my food not my pills. I realized this when I left him and he emptied the refrigerator of all the evidence right away. But he didn’t touch the pills. Within a week of leaving him all my symptoms of fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue had disappeared.
So with that in mind (and not to make you more paranoid but only more careful) consider that the water may be a misdirection. Or he might be doing that in order to set it up as a habit so that later, when he does poison it, you won’t notice anything different.
What I would do is simply clean it out when he isn’t looking and before you make your coffee.
OneDay
I read your posts and feel HUGE concern for you. Where are you at in this process? Are you contemplating leaving him? Trying to figure out how to restore your relationship? Trying to make sense of things?
I see you at the same place I was before I realized how dangerous my husband truly is. You’re asking the questions but maybe not quite realizing that asking these kind of questions IS your answer.
My quickie response is that if you are at a place in your relationship where you wonder if the water is safe in your coffee pot, you already KNOW what he’s capable of and that realization is very scary. It means you are NOT in a safe place! I am not a person who believes that living with a dangerous man is a healthy life plan. But I do understand you may need more thinking.
By all means, rinse the pot and put in fresh water. If he questions it, simply say that coffee tastes much better when water is fresh. (irony of metaphor: ‘wake up and smell the coffee’ comes to mind.)
I’d suggest getting a therapist to help you sort things out but I have found that most therapists don’t get it and their direction may be very dangerous. Perhaps Donna has someone on her list that would work better. She has a resources guide on the main page.
I do recall that one thing I did was set up an emergency plan, clothes/cash stashed in an offsite location in case I needed to run. I will also tell you the last day I saw my X! husband was the day I got away during my intended murder. My injuries from that incomplete murder are permanent.
Take care. And I mean that literally!
Oneday ~
Sorry !! To answer your question, your county health department would probably test the water. I would have it checked out.
Oh. I didn’t think of that MiLO. What an ideal solution.
As coastal ranchers, we used to have to have our water tested but we had to tell them what to test for. Does the county test for drugs in water? Or is there a general test to show whatever is in it? I can’t get a phone answer! They refer to help online! Although I am in a city now and the bureaucracy is SUCH a joy. (not 🙂 )
Katy – Hi
That brings up a good point, I am coming from a rural community where we have our own wells. Our health department would do the test if you took a sample and told them you were looking for possible toxins. I honestly don’t know about “city water”, they may wonder why you would think there would be toxins in that water. Hmmmm
My son works for a company that makes and installs water treatment systems and I know they will test your water (for free) again if you ask about toxins I would think that they would do it.
Don’t you just love bureaucracy at it’s best.