Many women have written to Lovefraud about husbands who they’ve come to believe are sociopaths. They were astounded to discover that, not only was the husband cheating, but he was having sex with men.
Lovefraud reader eyeswideshut writes about this in a recent comment to the post, After he’s gone: looking at the sociopath through open eyes. She asks:
Now that I know he is also gay, is sociopathic tendency in married gay men not common as well? When I read the stories of the women in the book (“Straight Wives”), many of the men sound like sociopaths as well. Have you studied this phenomenon? Is it possible that gay men who choose to live the lie of married life are likely also socios?
To this, another Lovefraud reader, Leslie, commented:
On the third extended date I had with the SP, I turned to him one night, after we’d been together, and said, “Have you been with men?” Something in the way he’d made love made me think he had. He stared at the window and said in a monotone, “I have never made love to a man.” It was the same monotone he used to deny that he was living with a woman when I asked him that a year later. He was. I don’t have hard proof, but I know the guy had had sex with men.
Then alohatraveler commented:
I have heard from another victim of my sociopath that he was starting to get more “experimental” when she knew him. She knew him after me. He was expressing an interest in having sex with a man, but of course, with a woman present, because he was “not gay.” We both also saw an ad that he posted looking for sex with a transsexual. Then he placed an ad where he wanted a traditional type of woman.
“Not a gay bone in my body”
Shortly after I met my sociopathic ex-husband, James Montgomery, he proclaimed to me, “There’s not a gay bone in my body.” I had no reason to doubt him. But when I left him after two-and-a-half years, I learned a lot about his sexual activities:
- He had sex with at least six other women during our relationship.
- He was heavily into Internet porn.
- He solicited gay male prostitutes.
- He tried to arrange threesomes and looked for swinging couples.
In short, he wanted sexual thrills. The more different kinds of thrills, the better. I’m lucky I didn’t get a serious disease.
Screw anyone
Sociopaths are hard-wired for sex. They have an excessive need for stimulation, excitement and sensation. They also have no fear and no inhibitions. From a sexual perspective, that means a voracious appetite and anything goes.
Dr. Liane Leedom writes that sociopaths only want two things. One of them is power. The other is sex.
So when it comes to sexual orientation, I believe sociopaths are neither straight nor gay. In short, they’ll screw anyone.
Lovefraud has heard from gay individuals—men and women—who were involved in gay relationships with sociopaths. I asked several of them if they thought the sociopath was actually gay. They all agreed with my theory and said the sociopath was not gay.
Sex with an agenda
This does not mean, however, that sociopaths are out of control. On the contrary, to them, sex, and sexual orientation, is just something to be used in order to achieve their objective, whatever that is.
Perhaps the most egregious example of this is the case of James McGreevey, the former governor of New Jersey. McGreevey, you may recall, resigned from office after proclaiming in a news conference that he was a “gay American.”
The truth was that his political career was imploding under a series of scandals. As I wrote in a review of the book written by McGreevey’s wife, I believe the former governor played the gay card because it was the best way to spin his political collapse.
Sociopaths use people for sex, and use sex to get what they want. Anybody who suits their agenda will do.
If it suits their agenda to be married with children, then that’s what they’ll do. But if sociopaths indulge in same-sex relationships, in my opinion, it’s because they’re sociopaths, not gay.
LouseG—the book Women Who Love Psychopaths lists the good temperament traits we have in common. You’d like it!
Thanks, justabouthealed. I’ve seen that book referred to several times now, and I will check it out! We do have good temperment traits, tons of ’em!!!
Oh…the sex thing. My ex S claimed he was Polymorphous Perverse or something like that…he was addicted to internet porn and picked up guys whenever he was in the mood.
He told me his ideal woman was a chick with a dick.
He told me he was one hundred percent heterosexual who just likes to suck dick.
I don’t know if he’s gay, definately bi though and yes to bestiality and attracted to young boys.
I do think no one and nothing was or is off limits for him…i still remember how I felt at the AIDS clinic getting my test (negative).
He called the other day, stoned, and asked me if I’d had sex with other men when we were married. I said no…he said, well, I don’t want to hurt your feelings but the last few times we had sex you were so huge I thought you’d been with some guys with big dicks and that’s why you were so streched out.
That made me laugh….we only had sex for about the first 3 weeks in a several years long marriage, the last time was in 1998 I think, and when we did his big complaint was that I was too tight!
He used that as an excuse to not have sex…!
So, he was just trying to get at me, hurt me somehow, or whatever….as I held the phone away and covered the receiver and cracked up.
Thank God he lives on the opposite coast. So yes, in his case he would and did have any kind of sex he wanted or could get. Yuck.
CAmom,
Oh, this has me laughing! What fruitcakes they are…so incredibly juvenile. I am glad you could crack up. When we can just look at them and KNOW whatever they are saying, good or bad, has NOTHING to do with us. That is some kind of freedom.
I laughed extra hard because I heard this word for word. And he was jealous of one of my ‘toys’ because he thought I liked it cause it was bigger than him. SO ridiculous and childish.
twicebetrayed and Henry
thanks for All for the kind words…I will be okay. today was a good day. I am working to get my selfesteem back and NC still in effect and wont ever change!
Glad this site is here, if not, i know ida been torn and questioning my good judgement again.
CAmom, the S i had also like the oral thing on men but let him tell it “in a monotoned voice” I wouldnt ever do that, i would cut a dudes “balls off” if they come an inch of me. All the while, he is looking at male porn, and did the unthinkable. No holes barred for this CREEPS, LIARS.
they are neither gay or straight n my book – its whateva. dogs, cats, horses, old, young, straight, etc.
I just found this site and it has given some comfort. However I’m so angry it’s UNREAL. My ex left day before Thanksgiving and I just put the Socio thingy together last week. I want to scream!
And Erin – please don’t think we are sharing too many details here..this will be the only place we can. My friends avoid me and I can understand why because this is so repulsive for them they just can not listen to it. It turns my stomach too. I’m seeing a shrink and therapist but you need girlfriends to hear ya too. I feel such pain….in my heart, my soul.
I have been sleeping with the DEVIL my friends. Thank GOD he is out of my house.
Dear Taylor,
WELCOME! I’m sorry that you “QUALIFY” to join our CLUB, but since you do qualify, this is the BEST place in the world to LEARN and to help get support while you process all this.l
Go back through the archives and read every article, all of them….hundreds, but there is so much good information there, and blog and rage ifyou need to and scream SCREAM in big caps if you need to!
Glad you are here and stayh around this place is a life saver, for REAL! God bless.
taylor – welcome, the anger can be big – it means you care about yourself and you are alive!
Dear Taylor,
We can only imagine your story. I am so glad you find this site. I will be five years free on July 3rd, 2010.
Healing from this kind of thing is a journey in itself. There are readers here like you that just figured it all out and are mad as hell. There are friendships, laughing, skillets flying… you’ll find out… and this is truly the most incredible support you will find anywhere.
Here is to your healing. Welcome and begin… at the beginning.
Aloha………..
Taylor:
Welcome darlen….
And your right…..this is a very safe place to share and a great support site.
I hope you are reading the articles and learning about these things…..they come in all forms!
We do sometimes have discussions that may ‘offend’people….and that is NEVER my intentions…to offend….I learn through others experiences and If my experiences can offer any insight….then it’s worth sharing.
Again….welcome to LF….I look forward hearing more from you.
XXOO
EB