Lovefraud received the following e-mail recently from a reader, who we’ll call “Iris.” She was married for 20 years to a man who she now realizes is a sociopath.
I avoid talking to my ex-husband as much as possible, but he is 4 months behind on court ordered spousal support as I am in school getting my business degree and working. He has to pay $600 a month for 3 years. The court also ordered the support to pay me back for $11,000 I had to put into our house and property to make it “sellable” after he left me in the dust and moved to another state. He left me with 5 acres, a house falling apart, a barn with code violations, and our 3 family dogs. I went into survival mode and got it all fixed and sold and re-homed all of my dogs (who I love and miss very much) through a wonderful adoption agency. He also owes me for a mortgage reimbursement check he forged my signature on and cashed after he talked the mortgage co. into sending it to him in Calif. I filed a police report.
I was hoping you could help me. I e-mailed him with the threat of taking him to court and he called several times before I answered. I try to avoid talking to him because I always feel I am being manipulated. Within our conversation, he was mean, evil, nice, ugly and caring and same old guy. I brought up that I know how he operates and that it took distance for a lengthy period of time to see that he was a sociopath and smooth talker and that his agenda is to “win” and manipulate. I said many other things also. HE ADMITTED THAT HE OPERATES DIFFERENTLY AND DOESNT FEEL THE SAME AS OTHERS. I was blown away. The only other time that he ever came close to this was when I was about to leave him several years ago when I found out he was cheating on me again. His exact words were, “I can’t help it; I’ve always gotten a RUSH out of getting away with stuff. It’s been like that since I was a kid.”
I guess what I “need” to know is, why did that hit me so hard? Why did it make me so emotional when he said he operates differently? Why did it make me feel sorry for him? Why do I feel so exhausted and why can’t I stop crying now? Does his admission make it that much more real? Did the reality that he really is a sociopath and my whole marriage was meaningless overwhelm me? I have been divorced for a year and a half and apart from him since Nov. 2008. We have a 21-year-old son. We have not even had to communicate much.
All I know is, I am still affected in a very dark way because of being with him for so long. I’ve been to a psychologist once a week for quite a while. It helps, but she doesn’t KNOW what it actually feels like. Do you have any words of wisdom to help me move on? I am ok most of the time, but I don’t trust anyone and can’t even think about dating. I feel paralyzed sometimes and felt that way throughout my long marriage. I still find myself resorting back to thinking, “maybe it was me.” Am I damaged for life? I am usually pretty busy, but when I have time on my hands, things still get dark and I am tired of feeling like this.
Extreme difference
One of the hardest things to wrap our brains around is the extreme degree to which sociopaths are different from us.
On the home page of Lovefraud.com, I state that sociopaths have no heart, no conscience and no remorse. Think about it. Sociopaths are missing all the qualities that make up the core of our humanity.
This is why coming to terms with the idea that sociopaths exist is so difficult. In order to grasp the concept of sociopaths, we have to give up some of our most cherished beliefs about what it means to be a human being living in our society.
Exploding myths
In our society, we may have differing points of views as old or young, men or women, liberals or conservatives, religious or secular, management or labor, or any other polarity. Still, some cultural ideas are so widespread, and so entrenched, that they are regarded as axioms.
When sociopaths are factored in, however, these axioms are nothing but exploding myths. Here are a few:
1. We all want to be loved. Sociopaths don’t care about love. They don’t even feel love. They certainly do not feel empathy for fellow human beings. When they appear to be acting out of love, it is probably nothing but manipulation, a tactic to advance their agenda. Sociopaths only want three things: power, control and sex.
2. There’s good in everyone. This, unfortunately, is not true. There are people in the world who are rotten to the core, and they’re the sociopaths. But unaware of the inherent evil of these predators, we believe that everyone deserves a chance, a second chance, and even more chances. Sociopaths milk this belief by promising to reform, but they never do.
3. Parents love their children. Most of us probably believe that, even if our childhoods were imperfect, our parents loved us and did the best they could. We don’t want to consider the idea that some parents simply don’t care about their kids. But if sociopaths have any concern about their children, it’s roughly equivalent to the concern they feel for an inanimate possession, like a flat screen TV. There is no real love.
4. Truth and justice will prevail. Many of us end up in legal battles with sociopaths, such as filing for divorce or claiming fraud. We approach the legal system assuming that we’ll get a fair hearing and justice will be served. But for sociopaths, court is show time. They lie to suit their agendas, and judges either don’t see it, or don’t care. Court isn’t about truth, it’s about winning, and sociopaths are wired to win.
5. We should live according to the Golden Rule. “Do to others what you would like them to do to you—”this rule of ethics is at the center of every major religious tradition. But if the “others” are sociopaths, living by the Golden Rule sets us up to be exploited. Treating them as we want to be treated, we’ll eventually find ourselves drained, and the sociopath on to a new source of supply.
Recovery
So how do we deal with the loss of what we thought were unshakeable truths? I think recovery has three aspects to it.
1. We accept that they are what they are. It is extremely unlikely that any sociopath, by the time he or she is an adult, is going to change. We must give up feeling guilty, or responsible, or even concerned. We may need to release grief or anger over what happened to us, but we must realize that there is nothing we can do about them.
2. We are grateful that we are not them. Although sociopaths probably don’t realize it, theirs is an empty, barren existence. They do not feel love, they do not feel human connection, they do not feel the warmth of belonging to anything. We may be in pain, and temporarily feel paralyzed, but we can recover our humanity. They don’t have a chance.
3. We resolve never to be exploited again. Now we know that sociopaths exist. We know how they think. We know how they act. We will never lose this knowledge, and knowledge is power. We take back our power, establish our boundaries and move forward.
Yes, the experience of a sociopath rattles us to the core. But it is possible to learn from it, gather ourselves and live again, with much more wisdom than we had before the nasty encounter.
Donna, thank you for a brillant post – the five myths and the three recommendations for recovery. It has been over eight months now for me, but I still can not get my mind around the lack of caring, the manipulation and the focus on money. Even worse, I can’t understand how I let myself fall for it… Yes, they are not human, and it is only in that framework and through absolutely no contact that we can refind ourselves. While it is tough to be manipulated by a partner, my heart goes out to those who have concluded that their own children are the real pyschopaths. It simply defies human reference points. It is lovely to now be living a simple life with no uproar, no gaslighting, no anxiety…
Phoenix,
You’re children are very blessed to have a mother like you!!
Everything you’re doing is right. And it’s THEIR salvation that you discovered what he was while they were still so young.
Your post was very inspiring for me with regards to my own family. I thank you for your own personal gratitude with regards to your freedom from your ex. Your children have a chance to now grow up healthy, happy and well adjusted, in complete safety. There is no better gift than that and love. Many blessings to you Phoenix.
LL
Dear Muganji,
“It is lovely to now be living a simple life with no uproar, no gaslighting, and no anxiety”
AH YES!!!! It is, isn’t it!
Welcome to LoveFraud! Glad you are here and glad you are doing the healing! God bless.
Muganji and Phoenix,
thank you for your kind words. Welcome to Lovefraud. We all wish you the best in your recoveries.
Today I discovered LoveFraud. Ever since I was crushed by my sociopath, I’ve felt dead inside. He was the best liar I have ever known. He was so good he had me participating in the lies. When I finally wanted to stop, he went out and found another willing participant.
Today finally feels like the first day of the rest of my life.
My sociopath brought home a mask from a business trip to Mexico. I would later find out he cheated on me while he was on that trip. He travels for business. So I would imagine he cheated on me for the three years we were together.
The mask gift was the most bizarre. It creeped me out from the first time I opened it. Now I know he was sending me a message about his secrets.
The art he liked most was also tromploi paintings where the subject was recreated to look real even though it was not.
When I think about it, he never really had much of his own personality. He is a perfect mimick. When I moved out, he replaced my glasses and silverware with glasses and silverware that looked like mine probably in an attempt to fool his three kids into thinking the stuff was the same.
He blends into a crowd like no one else I have ever known. Sometimes, I would lose him in public places because I couldn’t spot him. He didn’t have a smell to him unless he was wearing cologne.
He is an incredible liar. And I was an incredible believer.
I am so glad this site exists.
Thank you,
OneBeliever
Hello OneBeliever ~ I am glad you found LF. I’ve only been around here a little while myself.
There is MUCH to read and learn here. Bless you on your road to healing!!
dear one believer,
Welcome!! Glad you found your way here. There is healing here. God bless.
Hello One Believer -‘When I moved out, he replaced my glasses and silverware with glasses and silverware that looked like mine’
This is fairly common, they try to re-create. Mine got me to buy the exact same things his ex had bought him, even took me to the exact same places, even wore the same fancy dress costume. Weird or what?
You’re in a good place here. We are all at different stages of healing……keep reading. Someone said on here ‘healing is not measured by a calendar…….think of it more like a river sometimes moving fast, sometimes slow and sometimes it seems to stop altogether but eventually we ‘get it’
One Believer…
It’s almost as if they aren’t human. Like they recreate little scenarios that have worked in the past to entice more prey. My ex had a new woman 2 weeks after he kicked the kids and I out of our house… And I found out that he was calling her the same personal pet names he called me! I was devestated because those little names were mine… But it was all just part of the web they weave to capture prey and suck them dry. The worst part was, his close friends would tell me the shocking things he was saying about her… He was saying them to me about her as well! That she wasn’t his type and that she was a distraction. She was overweight and he said that she had “hail damage” meaning really bad cellulite! That REALLY made me angry. I wanted to run to her and warn her but how could I? I kept my mouth shut. He was just using her. He kept her a secret from the kids and I as long as he could. And then, as strange as this is, the kids and I found a house with a six month lease that was three doors down from her! I had no idea… Strange things happen in small towns! I didn’t find out until a two weeks later when my poor kids exploded and told me that their dad had told them never to tell me but that we were living around the corner from his girlfriend. He said never tell your mother because she’ll go over there and start a fight and trash her house and her car… Who does he think I am? My poor kids were so terrified that they kept it a secret until one day, all three just burst and told me. I have raised them never to keep secrets. I don’t believe in punitive management and although I do discipline them, I do not act out of anger! We work through things! For him to try and paint me like some violent, angry, scary woman on a rampage to my children was a huge reason why I went NC. Because he was playing us all against each other. And I learned that to respond on any level only perpetuated more lies and pain. I cried when the kids told me. I said that they should know me better than that, and that if anything, I would leave cupcakes on her doorstep and never speak an unkind word to her. I felt for her. So we never crossed paths, until one day, after we had moved to a new house and he had used her and abused her, bones picked cleaned, cast her to the side, she and I found ourselves sitting across from each other at a cafe, her at the next table over. We just shared a smile. A very long smile of understanding that said whew! I’m glad we both got away from him! We’ve never spoken. He left her two weeks after the kids and I moved to yet another house. She no longer served a purpose. He couldn’t and didn’t get a reaction out of me with her. He would go to her house and howl at the moon and drink all night and keep the neighbourhood awake. It was embarrassing for the kids and I, but we learned to ignore him. We gave him nothing. It’s the only way.Â
They are the best manipulators, they feel nothing, no remorse. Life is almost an experiment for them to play people against each other for their own personal gain. They use props like pet names and silverware. They can’t create their own lives so they steal the warmth from ours. You are so supported here. The people who blog here have brought me back to having faith in humanity. Please keep sharing!Â
Sky and Gem
I have to be honest with you to Sky I was very careful with talking to all of you too wondering who could be trusted but I have gained respect for both of you and Oxy. You three for sure have become my new best friends. Sky your sister is exactly the same as my daughter. I too new my daughter was selfish and was able get anyone’s attention from birth but she was not down right evil. I too blame myself because I funded the hair shop she found him in but no longer I marked it up to destiny and put it in gods hands. I too Gem Can not find any love for my daughter any more. I to will never understand how stupid they are or how stupid they pretend they are, Can you believe after all I have went through with her she has the nerve to phone me and ask me what she has ever done to me? Well I just replied you stole my grandchildren from me and have shown no respect for me. I am your mother stood by you all your life and deserve some respect from you. If I can not have your respect I want nothing but to see my grandchildren and hung up on her.I can not and will not give up on my grandsons as they have done me no harm and at this point have big hearts. I hope they are able to hang onto there hearts and as long as we are there we can try to keep letting them see what people with hearts do. I did feel good to Gem when I told the Spath off the other day and let him know I was not about to take there crap any longer.Thank you friends! xoxo