Lovefraud received the following e-mail recently from a reader, who we’ll call “Iris.” She was married for 20 years to a man who she now realizes is a sociopath.
I avoid talking to my ex-husband as much as possible, but he is 4 months behind on court ordered spousal support as I am in school getting my business degree and working. He has to pay $600 a month for 3 years. The court also ordered the support to pay me back for $11,000 I had to put into our house and property to make it “sellable” after he left me in the dust and moved to another state. He left me with 5 acres, a house falling apart, a barn with code violations, and our 3 family dogs. I went into survival mode and got it all fixed and sold and re-homed all of my dogs (who I love and miss very much) through a wonderful adoption agency. He also owes me for a mortgage reimbursement check he forged my signature on and cashed after he talked the mortgage co. into sending it to him in Calif. I filed a police report.
I was hoping you could help me. I e-mailed him with the threat of taking him to court and he called several times before I answered. I try to avoid talking to him because I always feel I am being manipulated. Within our conversation, he was mean, evil, nice, ugly and caring and same old guy. I brought up that I know how he operates and that it took distance for a lengthy period of time to see that he was a sociopath and smooth talker and that his agenda is to “win” and manipulate. I said many other things also. HE ADMITTED THAT HE OPERATES DIFFERENTLY AND DOESNT FEEL THE SAME AS OTHERS. I was blown away. The only other time that he ever came close to this was when I was about to leave him several years ago when I found out he was cheating on me again. His exact words were, “I can’t help it; I’ve always gotten a RUSH out of getting away with stuff. It’s been like that since I was a kid.”
I guess what I “need” to know is, why did that hit me so hard? Why did it make me so emotional when he said he operates differently? Why did it make me feel sorry for him? Why do I feel so exhausted and why can’t I stop crying now? Does his admission make it that much more real? Did the reality that he really is a sociopath and my whole marriage was meaningless overwhelm me? I have been divorced for a year and a half and apart from him since Nov. 2008. We have a 21-year-old son. We have not even had to communicate much.
All I know is, I am still affected in a very dark way because of being with him for so long. I’ve been to a psychologist once a week for quite a while. It helps, but she doesn’t KNOW what it actually feels like. Do you have any words of wisdom to help me move on? I am ok most of the time, but I don’t trust anyone and can’t even think about dating. I feel paralyzed sometimes and felt that way throughout my long marriage. I still find myself resorting back to thinking, “maybe it was me.” Am I damaged for life? I am usually pretty busy, but when I have time on my hands, things still get dark and I am tired of feeling like this.
Extreme difference
One of the hardest things to wrap our brains around is the extreme degree to which sociopaths are different from us.
On the home page of Lovefraud.com, I state that sociopaths have no heart, no conscience and no remorse. Think about it. Sociopaths are missing all the qualities that make up the core of our humanity.
This is why coming to terms with the idea that sociopaths exist is so difficult. In order to grasp the concept of sociopaths, we have to give up some of our most cherished beliefs about what it means to be a human being living in our society.
Exploding myths
In our society, we may have differing points of views as old or young, men or women, liberals or conservatives, religious or secular, management or labor, or any other polarity. Still, some cultural ideas are so widespread, and so entrenched, that they are regarded as axioms.
When sociopaths are factored in, however, these axioms are nothing but exploding myths. Here are a few:
1. We all want to be loved. Sociopaths don’t care about love. They don’t even feel love. They certainly do not feel empathy for fellow human beings. When they appear to be acting out of love, it is probably nothing but manipulation, a tactic to advance their agenda. Sociopaths only want three things: power, control and sex.
2. There’s good in everyone. This, unfortunately, is not true. There are people in the world who are rotten to the core, and they’re the sociopaths. But unaware of the inherent evil of these predators, we believe that everyone deserves a chance, a second chance, and even more chances. Sociopaths milk this belief by promising to reform, but they never do.
3. Parents love their children. Most of us probably believe that, even if our childhoods were imperfect, our parents loved us and did the best they could. We don’t want to consider the idea that some parents simply don’t care about their kids. But if sociopaths have any concern about their children, it’s roughly equivalent to the concern they feel for an inanimate possession, like a flat screen TV. There is no real love.
4. Truth and justice will prevail. Many of us end up in legal battles with sociopaths, such as filing for divorce or claiming fraud. We approach the legal system assuming that we’ll get a fair hearing and justice will be served. But for sociopaths, court is show time. They lie to suit their agendas, and judges either don’t see it, or don’t care. Court isn’t about truth, it’s about winning, and sociopaths are wired to win.
5. We should live according to the Golden Rule. “Do to others what you would like them to do to you—”this rule of ethics is at the center of every major religious tradition. But if the “others” are sociopaths, living by the Golden Rule sets us up to be exploited. Treating them as we want to be treated, we’ll eventually find ourselves drained, and the sociopath on to a new source of supply.
Recovery
So how do we deal with the loss of what we thought were unshakeable truths? I think recovery has three aspects to it.
1. We accept that they are what they are. It is extremely unlikely that any sociopath, by the time he or she is an adult, is going to change. We must give up feeling guilty, or responsible, or even concerned. We may need to release grief or anger over what happened to us, but we must realize that there is nothing we can do about them.
2. We are grateful that we are not them. Although sociopaths probably don’t realize it, theirs is an empty, barren existence. They do not feel love, they do not feel human connection, they do not feel the warmth of belonging to anything. We may be in pain, and temporarily feel paralyzed, but we can recover our humanity. They don’t have a chance.
3. We resolve never to be exploited again. Now we know that sociopaths exist. We know how they think. We know how they act. We will never lose this knowledge, and knowledge is power. We take back our power, establish our boundaries and move forward.
Yes, the experience of a sociopath rattles us to the core. But it is possible to learn from it, gather ourselves and live again, with much more wisdom than we had before the nasty encounter.
Finally Phoenix –
Welcome to Lovefraud, and thank you for your kind words. It is wonderful to know that this information helps you and others.
Stay strong! Best wishes for your recovery, and the flourishing of your children.
Mislead, Oxy
I think I’ve read every single book the two of you have mentioned including Bonds of Betrayal, Too Late Smart, 48 laws of power…..in addition to many text books and whatnot about personality disorders and human neurosis….I’ve probably read 100 in all over the last two years. And despite all this incredible intellectual knowledge I have about my spath, I can’t quite absorb this into emotional or practical knowledge or acceptance.
I like your idea, Mislead, about providing specific focused help around no-contact. I keep failing. I’ll go “no contact”…then something happens, I soften, I think, he’s not really bad….. I forgive, I love him, I want to be loved back, and then get drawn in all over again.
I posted earlier this week about my latest stupidity.
We started things up again (he kicked it off with a very blatant lie, which I just decided to overlook). He flirted, he put on his “charming” mask, he texted and called constantly……
Then he starts telling me about this friend who needs a job…(I hire a lot of people in my job)…..and he starts telling me how much he likes busty women (I’m 34A…small)…..and he starts telling me how he likes dark skinned women (I’m blonde)…..then he mentions to me that his “friend” is busty and dark skinned and hot…he said she was a dead ringer for his ex-girlfriend from 10 years ago. It was pretty obvious to me that he was hinting, so I asked him, are you sleeping with this “friend” of yours? He said no.
Then he took my business card and had his friend contact me for a job….
Turns out the “friend” was also his bartender…She is 20 years his junior. I asked her to clarify the extent of their relationship, as I had my suspicions. She is an open, honest girl, and said their relationship was also sexual (just recently).
How ridiculous.
He screwed somebody 20 years younger. He wanted me to know. He hinted. He told me he didn’t think I was sexy. He made sure I found out about it.
Why humiliate me? Why the hostility? What did I do to deserve this? How do I ever get rid of this pit in my stomach?
How do I stop burning cycles thinking about the pain and suffering and just move on to happy thoughts?
Superkid10
Dear Superkid,
You HAVE TO REMAIN NO CONTACT—that is how you do it, NO MATTER WHAT. NO CONTACT. You do not listen to him, you do not read his e mails or texts and you do NOT COMMUNICATE WITH HIM OR WITH OTHERS ABOUT HIM…..
It is like touching a red hot stove, when are you going to lean that it WILL BURN YOU?
You must make your LOGICAL BRAIN over rule your EMOTIONAL BRAIN…..impulse control. Think of your emotional self as a child—and like all children she wants what she wants and has no concept of danger or impulse control. So what you do is you take care of this internal “emotional little girl” by telling her. “No, sugar, you can’t have more candy before bed, it will upset your stomach. I know you want it but the answer is NO, I love you too much to let you do something that I know will hurt you.”
SO you protect that emotional you until she quits whining and crying for something that YOUR LOGICAL SELF knows is going to hurt her.
What does he get out of it….to make you hurt and why does he keep on doing this? BECAUSE YOU LET HIM, AND YOU LET HIM SEE THAT IT HURTS YOU. STOP!!!!! You CAN CONTROL THIS, you are NOT helpless, you just have to DO IT! Come here and post instead of listening to him.
BTW what difference does it make who he is farking? He would fark a snake if someone would hold it! (((hugs))))
ps Keep on reading and DOING!!!!!
Superkid, Your spath gets intense pleasure out of your insecurity and pain. It reduces you (he thinks) and elevates him. It is a power play, and his ego squeels with delight at making you feel insecure, somehow lacking, not as good as, threatened and jealous. He feels important and powerful that he can induce these feelings in you. He’s scum. No one who really loves you would play with your heart like that!
Google some stuff on trauma-bonding…it might help you to make the final break.
I hope you kick this guy to the curb, step over him and never look back.
Dear Superkid ~ He does it, because he CAN.
To me, it’s sort of like a house cat that catches a mouse. Their instincts tell them to catch it. Yet, once they do, they just play with it, and torture it until it’s so battered that it cannot provide them entertainment any longer. They get bored and move on.
Please save yourself. He is a PREDATOR. You don’t really want to be his prey, do you?
Oxy, Kim, H2H,
Thank you. I really didn’t expect any advice, but you gave it to me, and I really believe you are right.
I feel battered like a rag doll.
I need to find another way of resolving my pain.
Maybe I will come back to this site a whole lot more in the coming days. My goal is to make it a month of no contact. After that, I swear, I’ll be on the pathway to peace and happliness.
Thank you so, so, so much. I feel like crying, you guys…. you have no idea how much you’ve helped me.
SuperKid10
Phoenix,
What an INCREDIBLY strong woman you are!!!! Your post resonated with me so much and I want to take the time to validate YOU as a GREAT mother and filled with infinite wisdom in what love really means in what you’re giving to your children.
Please don’t worry for them, about not having a father figure around. There’s LOTS of mentor programs you can get into, and if there are positive male role models in their lives this will help too, but in the end, your LOVE for them will be PLENTY in giving them all they need to move ahead in safety, healing and GOOD HEALTH!!! As time moves forward, you will find that your ex and all his “crying” will amount to nothing and those that believe, if not most, will NO LONGER DO SO. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN HIS FAKE CRYING!
I know something about this. I raised six all by myself without their drug addicted, alcoholic, abusing nightmare of a father. I made the mistake of getting involved with another spath but he did not live with me, THANK GOD. I loved my children and they know this. We are a tight unit, even with our issues. It’s YOUR LOVE that will make all the difference.
I”m so happy for you! Keep moving. You’re absolutely doing the right thing, for them and for yourself. Congratulations!
LL
Dear Superkid,
It starts out about THEM and what they are and what they do, but in the end it is a learning process about OURSELVES. They cannot hurt us unless WE ALLOW IT by staying in contact with them.
SEEMS SIMPLE ENOUGH right—a snake can’t bite you if you are not in striking range, but there is something about US that makes us want to be around them….some how we come to believe that if we PET THE SNAKE ENOUGH that it will grow fur and love us back like a puppy dog. NOPE, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!! No matter how nice we are to the snake, it is still going to remain poison and still going to bite us and poison us.
WE MUST STAY AWAY—MUST—otherwise it WILL bite us.
Keep coming here and keep on reading, this is NOT going to be a quick fix, it will take time and you will be tempted to go back over and over but the RESULT WILL BE THE SAME until YOU decide to stop the merry-go-round! ((((hugs))))
I thought I’d post this link about betrayal bonds and recovering from them. Hope it’s helpful.
http://members.shaw.ca/bethhedva/excepts.htm
Okay darn it. The link doesn’t work. The anme of the book is, Betrayal, Trust and Forgiveness: A Guide to Emotional Healing and Self Renewal. If you google it, it will allow you to read the first chapter!