By Ox Drover
Donna’s great article about Victory, of a sort, over a sociopath the other day got me to thinking.
Just what is “victory?”
My wonderful stepfather was a young basketball coach when he got his first real job coaching for a very small rural school which had not had a winning game in over a decade. The team was dispirited and had no real expectation of ever winning a game.
One of the local coaches bragged that he would beat them “by a hundred points!” at the next game. The team thought there was a good possibility that that coach’s team could do just that. However, it is “good sportsmanship” for a coach playing a much weaker team to let their second, third, and fourth strings get a chance to play, and to win over the weaker team, but not “tromp” them.
Daddy thought this other coach’s brag to stomp and tromp his team was poor sportsmanship so he made a plan. When the fourth quarter started and Daddy’s team had the ball, they “froze” it (which was legal in the game then) and wouldn’t either shoot the ball or take a chance on losing it, so passed the ball from one of Daddy’s team members to another the entire quarter. They didn’t make any points, but they kept the other team from even getting their hands on the ball the entire quarter, and thus making points against them. Daddy’s team didn’t win, but the other coach didn’t win by his “hundred points” either. That little team went on the next year to win their division championship because of the confidence that Daddy inspired in them.
Sometimes “winning” or “victory” can be interpreted in different ways. I’m also reminded of the old Country and Western song, the “Winner” where an older man and a younger man are in a bar talking. The younger man wants to be a “winner” in bar fight brawls, and the older man is educating him on what is “winning” and what isn’t.
Sure, you can get into a fight and you may inflict more damage on your opponent than he inflicts on you in the fight, but like the old man said, “He gouged out my eye, but I won.” Sometimes it is better to walk away from a fight and not lose more than you have already lost, or allow your opponent to take another “pound of flesh” in your attempts to “get justice.”
It isn’t always about getting what you deserve, or victory over them, or even seeing that they get “what they so richly deserve,” sometimes, I think, “winning” simply means keeping them from taking more out of you and, like Daddy’s team, “freezing the ball.” Sometimes, it is like the would-be barroom brawler, walking away (intact) with the other guy yelling curses in your direction.
It is emotionally tough to watch a cheater “get away with it” when they have ripped us off, and go “waltzing away” unscathed and apparently the victor. It eats at our sense of fairness to let them “succeed” and not pay a price for their bad behavior.
Yet, sometimes, “discretion is the better part of valor” to use an old phrase, or to “be a live dog, rather than a dead lion,” and “retreat and live to fight another day.”
Those victims who are not able to fight for a “victory” of any sort, I don’t think need to feel that they have “failed” because they chose not to fight the sociopath.
Too many times fighting the psychopaths are like “fighting a circular saw,” as my grandmother would have said. It “just isn’t worth it,” because the damage to yourself will be worse than you can possibly inflict on the psychopath. They stack the odds so in their own favor, that even if you “win,” you end up like the old brawler sitting in the barroom, broken and so gravely injured yourself in your effort to gain a “victory, of sorts” that in retrospect the price was too high.
Sometimes, it is better to walk away a “loser” but still intact, and with your head held high, using the energy and resources you have left to focus on healing yourself, on recovering what you have lost in terms of finances and strength, and take care of yourself. To me that is also a “viable victory.”
Dear Oxdrover,
From what I’ve seen, Ns, Ps and Ss are drawn to ministry, particularly the pulpit. They’re particularly common in Evangelical, Baptist and “nondenominational” congregations. They revel in the lack of oversight.
You got off easy, cause you weren’t a member of his “flock”. Count your blessings, dearly beloved. Among them is that you’re not naive enough to join a flock of crazy-clucks!
Elizabeth,
please don’t leave out the CATHOLIC church in your “particulary common” group! We’ve got them coming out our ears.
Hecates,
ok, here’s your pep talk: wear gray, be boring and dull when/if you see him tomorrow. Remember, the entire LF gang is with you in spirit. All P’s want emotional reactions, so you will kill him when he doesn’t get it. Even when you didn’t go after him in court it was a victory because you didn’t give him your emotions. Keep all that in mind tomorrow.
Dear Hecates Path,
Skylar says wear Gray and be BORING, well I say WEAR RED and be WA-AZM!!!! LOL
Keep your head high and realize that you ARE THE WINNER, that he did NOT destroy you, and that you are the QUEEN of the world and he is a stable boy, shoveling manure for the rest of his empty lfie!
GIVE HIM THE “POTTED PLANT” routine—treat him like he isa potted plant. You don’t notice th epotted plants in a room, and they can’t talk, so you wouldn’t speak to them, even if you thought you heard words coming out of them…you just IGNORE THEM!!!
You can do it, I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT! Oh, an dpicture me behind him with my skillet raised over his head!!! And my new hat with the big phesant feathered tail all down the back! TOWANDA!!!!!! The Love Fraud WAR CRY—you can’t hurt me cause you don’t exist!!!!
Skylar, thank you for your pep talk. I have to admit I am not good at wearing or being “grey” in any aspect of my life. I am as Oxy said, more akin to wearing Red and being “WA-ZAM.” See wearing grey and being unnoticeable in my mind would be akin to inaction – which is what makes mad about not being able to safely fry him in court. I’ve always been a do-er. I appreciate the reminder that the LF gang will be with me in spirit!
HP,
He is a big zero, a nothing. Ignore the SOB like Oxy says. You won’t be bothered by something that doesn’t even exist.
Oxy,
I am sorry your plan didn’t go as you had hoped. Judas Priest! People are stupid!! Makes you wonder if they all have to have a starring role in their very own “Fatal Attraction” movie to actually GET IT! Makes me so freakin’ mad! I am still waiting for the magistrate to impose the jail sentence on my xp for being in contempt of court since 07/2007. I even went so far as to write a letter to the Gov. of my state to see what could be done about the court dragging its feet. I get a response back today that if I wanted to submit a written request, I could get an executive clemency order started. Now, I may be from podunkville, but I took that to mean the Gov. thinks I want to have the a**hole excused. OMG…someone just shoot me…LOL
Oxy… you did it again! Once again you helped me see a truth about myself that I hadn’t realized… in this case it’s that I am a red wearing, “WA-ZAM” kinda girl and I don’t have to fade into the woodwork to enact the potted pot routine… and that the potted plant routine gets more mileage when I think of it as more than just ignoring him, but that I am ignoring him because he is not only not worth my attention, he is beneath it. I think you are saying in a way, remind him that this is one source of supply that others can have but he can’t ever have… he had it and he blew it, LOL.
Your support as always means the world to me… and the skillet and hat imagery you offered up are priceless. 🙂 Thank you for sharing your spunk and spirit with me when I was running a bit low… it’s like you’re the jumper cables giving me just enough of “charge” to get my own sparks going and I couldn’t be more thankful. Thanks for believing me when I need it most!
I’ll be chanting in my head “potted plant, potted plant” to the tune of “I think I can, I think I can” like the “little engine that could” and imagining skillets emblazoned with Towanda!
Hugs and thanks…HP
P.S: My crazy borderline mother reared her head tonight after a temper tantrum last weekend – which sucked up some of my “anti-crazy people” abilities… thank goodness friends are God’s way of making up for our families!!!!
HP,
I’m with you about not being good at not being noticed, but make sure you are noticed for the right things.
In this case, we are talking about narcissism: the pathological need for attention. That is HIS game, it is what he is and does. It is what makes him infantile. In this case, you can only one up him by NOT needing attention in the most dramatic and overt possible way. Creating a dramatic contrast between what you are and what he is with an emphasis on your maturity and his infantile nature will more serve your purposes, both in your psyche and in the external world.
So maybe boring is not the word of the day, but definitely show no emotion when he is around. Treat him as you would a bothersome little child, smile blandly and turn away.
Thanks sstiles 🙂 Your affirming words are appreciated. What a joke re: the letter you recieved! I have heard of more “sheer stupidity” stories and communication mix ups in the last week and they all seem to have their roots in unresolved situations from 2007/08 that should’ve been over a long time ago. Hope your ex gets his jail sentence soon… thanks again!
HP
I walked away, probably pisses him off more than anything else I could have done in this case, every situation is different. I figure I could have spent that money in years of therapy and never learned the lesson I learned from this one person. So it is a victory for me. I’m going to jump around my living room now and do high kicks (and probably hurt my back) 🙂
Skylar,
Don’t need or want his attention – just reminding him he can’t have my attention will be good enough. Treating him like a child and giving him a bland smile would still be too much to give him… he gets nothing from me. While my ex is an N, his S/P tendencies win out – he is more driven by a need for control than attention. Not being able to control me is what makes him insane… and that means the fact that his mere presence doesn’t mean a lick of spit to me means he isn’t in control of me… I am starting to see that the power is in him seeing that everybody but him gets my emotion! 🙂