Twenty states have “civil commitment” laws to keep dangerous sex offenders off the street after their jail sentences are complete. This year, the programs will cost a total of more than $500 million—five times the cost of regular incarceration.
Why? Because of all the behavioral therapists, social workers, psychologists and psychiatrists who are treating the predators.
In Lovefraud’s view, this cost could easily be reduced, because many of the sex offenders are psychopaths, and psychopaths can’t be rehabilitated. So the solution is to help those who can be helped, and throw the rest in jail.
Read: Treatment for a sexual predator costs a whopping $175,000 per person per year in New York: study.
You know, this is unconsicionable politically correct CRAPOLA!
There are some things going on in our Society that are so OBVIOUSLY WRONG and so obviously TWISTED that NO person with “one eye and half sense” should be so stupid that they would “go for” such a thing.
Our educational system, in order to be “fair” takes a 16 year old child who is NON VERBAL and unable to do even the most basic activities of daily living, like feed themselves, and puts them in an “age appropriate” classroom with an aide hired to do nothing but take care of them. This costs WHAT? and benifits WHO? A while back in Texas they were trying to put ANCEPHALIC children (children born with empty skulls, Only a brain stem) in “age appropriate” classrooms until the caregivers raised such a fuss at exposing these very fradgile individuals to the germs and diseases of “normal” kids they would have been exposed to—that the idea was dropped.
I am very much an advocate for ANYthing that will actually benefit a disabled child—however that child is disabled—but GET REAL folks—Look at what Witsend endured trying to get help for her kid who MIGHT HAVE benefited from an 1 on 1 aid, and some special therapy to keep him in school and motivate him, instead she got NOTHING and some kid who is blind, deaf and mute gets $50,000 spent on him which cannot benifit him.
Same thing with the dangerous “sexual predators”—-$175,000 would buy a lot of therapy and education for a lot of kids that it might benefit, but gimmie a break folks! Some one ought to be AWAKENED in the state legislature to GET REAL and find a reasonable solution. THIS IS NOT IT!!!!
BTW if anyone wants to talk to me tonight, you’ll have to do it on this thread, it is the only one I can get on!
Pathetic!
I bet the lawmakers do not run their personal finances in this manner!!!!
I like the comment…….How much does a bullet cost!?!?!?!
If not…..throw em in a cell and forget to feed em! SLIME OF THE EARTH!!!
Erin and Oxy, some blogger on a post regarding that murderer that was executed last week said (LOL) … he’s a defective part and we are sending him back to the manufacturer.
I thought that was common sense Christian humor.
It doesn’t make sense that maintaining a prisoner should cost as much as it does. It makes even less sense to pour money down the drain treating sexual predators.
There are lots of people in this world with sick fantasy lives who never harm anyone. Sexual Predators are different. They have sick fantasy lives co-morbid with moral insanity. It makes no sense to ever free them.
There needs to be a place for criminals that costs the rest of humanity little or nothing to maintain.
We should be expending our resources helping our nation’s elderly, handicapped and poverty stricken.
Devil’s Island, or the price of a bullet. LOL Yep, send’em back to the maker for repairs or replacement. Gullag or coal mine, I don’t care. Give them a reason to work. Make them PAY for their keep, not COST the tax payer.
Sorry, but IMHO Prisons should be a FOR PROFIT set up. Put them babies to WORK, Arkansas works them, they grow their own food and plant and harvest cotton and other crops, put them puppies on a hoe line with shot gun riders on horses and dogs on the sides.
Make’em dread to go back!
Buttons & EB this is still the only one I can get on so can’t answer you on the other threads. Don’t know how long this one will hold out. 30 comments seems to be the max I can open up now. To town this week and Verizon!
I’m with you Oxy, make them work their butts off on chain gangs. This administration can start rounding up the dead beat parents to start the ball rolling, pull them out of their new relationships that they are conning to keep a roof over their head and make them pay society back with hard labor. I’m putting money on they all have an excuse that they can’t work … hobble, hobble. Where is that Cathy Bates when we need her?
Well I am going to toss my 2 cents in on this one. This article is about the exact same thing and has the same material as the article Donna has linked but it also has more that appears to have been cut from the article above http://tinyurl.com/2eo926r
1st – most sex offenders (that is a broad term covering a wide array of offenses) are not psychopaths and most do not re-offend with a sex offense. (note how the article states sexual predators and treatment is only about 20% effective rather than saying sex offenders)
2nd – While it is a common saying that they can’t be fixed (psychopaths) the research studies so far suggest otherwise. As I have said before just because some won’t and don’t change does not mean they can’t. http://tinyurl.com/2dss2rg (starting on page eight)
3rd – Cost. It is costly not because of the treatment but because of this quote “the costs persist for years because most inmates will never be released.”
I made a post about this back in May talking about the UK’s program and hown it may be shut down. Here is a piece of what I posted on here in May:
Of course the UK has something similar to this already in place and running called the DSPD program (which also includes psychopaths). It was launched in 1999 and has cost an estimated 200 million pounds but they are considering ending the program because the program has been ineffective and has had a very high rate of false positives.
I think that the same may happen here as well. The actuarials commonly used are in question of just how effective they really are. For example if you remember Anthony Sowell he scored a low 1 on the Static-99 yet now he is accused of killing 11 women. (you can see his assessment here http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/…..ntentBody). John Gardner III scored a 2 on the Static-99.
It is extremely difficult to try to pick out these kind of people because of the problem of low base rates. If you only have one sex offender out of ten who is paroled who will re-offend it is difficult to pick out that one and it is even harder, I would say next to impossible, to pick out those who commit the really rare crimes like Sowell’s and Gardners.
The majority of people arrested for sexual offenses are never rearrested for another sexual offense. (which does not mean they did not reoffend) and the majority of sexual offenses are committed by people who have never been caught before. To catch them would entail huge over-prediction which would result in a massive amount of false positives.
Rather than pouring money into the back end after the crimes have happened I would hope we would pour more money and resources into the front end of prevention programs that actually do help to reduce crime.
Sadly bad things happen in life and we can’t predict or prevent them all from happening.
It is easy to understand why people would want laws like this. It’s a way to deny their impotence and channel their feelings of sadness, guilt and rage. But the unintended consequences of these things are now starting to blow back on us.
I also posted this back in May and it applies here also:
I don’t think there is any one easy answer. A few things I personally think would help would be a change in the correctional system as a whole. We are the “land of the free” yet we lock up more people than even the soviet union did. We need to work on prevention and treatment for the low level non-violent crimes and save the long term prison sentences for those truly dangerous offenders.
In my state alone we spend over $1 Billion dollars a year on prisons while only spending about $670 million on education. Money better spent on prevent and education programs to help people learn about and better avoid predatory people. Money better spent on prevention, treatment and social programs to help decrease crime overall.
And sadly there is no 100% way to ever be safe or get rid of predatory people. And despite the myth some people who would be called sociopaths DO benefit from treatment. Just because someone won’t change or don’t change does not mean they can’t change. Many people with substance abuse issues won’t/don’t change for many years with some never changing. Some predatory people (such as a gang member) don’t/won’t change for years and do horrible things yet decades later they change and turn around and run programs to try to help others escape that lifestyle.
There are very few absolutes. There are some that won’t change. It is their choice though. And that is what makes it harder to predict. People, unlike animals, can overcome nature and nurture with choice in many areas. This is one of those areas.
I fully agree that there are people that should never be allowed in society again. Trying to pick out those that are not obvious cases is the issue and problem. On this I agree with Donna in that help those that can be helped and incarcerate the ones that won’t/don’t change.
Good post BloggerT. I’m still po’d that Hollywood’s directors/screen writers and PR folks constantly glamorize bad behavior in people aka hero worshiping is alive and well in our country giving fools something to aspire too. Just once would I love to see a story how an evil personality wasn’t made the hero of the story and they really showed the devastation these idiots cause. Also, I’m sick and tired of the slap on the wrist these courts hand out to these folks. I have nightmares about my EX finally being hauled in to court. Get convicted to find out he has to do 4 years or less (Sad frown) … and is out in less than 12 months. Not bad for conning me out of my life’s savings.
OxD, I’m in complete agreement with the politically correct approach!
Wini, the saddest thing is that these people will not only get out with a slap on their wrists, but they’ll do the same thing to someone else, and everyone will have the NERVE to act surprised!