Lovefraud received the following letter from a reader:
I was not in a disastrous relationship with my S. Our relationship was less than three years, our marriage less than two when he openly cheated and decided to leave me, then played games of false reconciliation, which in hindsight were so he could have two sex partners.
The short end of my question is ”¦ How do you reconcile the basically happy marriage, the illusion of a man you married with the horrible monster he has become in trying to create turmoil in your life and use your greatest love (your child) to hurt you?
Range of behavior
One reason why it’s so difficult to spot sociopaths is because they are not all the same. Sociopathy is a trait that varies from person to person. You could compare it to a trait like intelligence—not all intelligent people are intelligent in the same way. Some people are smart in academics, some people have mechanical skills, some people are artistically brilliant. They are all intelligent, but intelligent in different areas of life.
Sociopathy manifests differently in different people—I like to say the disorder ranges from sleazy to serial killer. Some, therefore, are violent—but many, probably even most, are not. Some sociopaths are low-level criminals; others have successful careers in business, government, medicine, the military, education, the clergy—every possible field of endeavor.
The point is, sociopaths exhibit a range of behavior, so behavior by itself is not always a reliable way of spotting the disorder.
The mask
Sociopaths often wear a mask—until they decide that they can no longer be bothered keeping up appearances. I think that’s what happened in the case of this Lovefraud reader. The sociopath she was with played the part of the committed husband—until he had enough of that game and wanted a change. Oh, he kept it going for awhile with the false reconciliation. But when he was well and truly tired of the marriage, he became the monster.
The reader didn’t say how he was using the child to hurt her, but based on what I’ve heard from other parents, I can take a few guesses. The sociopath considers the child to be his property, and he wants to own it. Or, the sociopath thinks the child will be useful to his image—he’ll be able to play the doting dad, so that he can snag another victim. Or, the sociopath simply wants to win whatever battle their custody situation has become, and win convincingly, so that our reader never has the temerity to challenge him again.
The illusion
So how does our reader reconcile the “happy marriage” with the “monster”? She has to understand that the happy marriage never existed. It was an illusion, carefully crafted by the sociopath to reel her in and get what he wanted. Once he changed his mind about what he wanted, the marriage was no longer useful to him, so he dumped it.
This is what sociopaths have in common: They are social predators. They are users. They have no heart, no conscience and no remorse. You cannot interpret them through the way you live your life. You simply have to accept the fact that they are staggeringly different from us. We feel empathy for other people. They do not.
Regardless of how it manifests, the common denominator is that these people are empty shells pretending to be human. When you look carefully inside them, you’ll see nothing.
Conomo, I had to do the same. i was bashe d unconscious by my ex, took me 2 years to plan my escape. I couldnt take my teenagers as Id no room, tiny flat, they didnt want to come with me anyway. I had to leave them with him. they were 17 and 19, hardly babies. Im sure he poisoned their minds against me. He is a n a lcoholic, when sober he was a great husband to me, and a good Dad. When he started drinking again after nearly 10 years, within 3 months he was worse than ever.he told the girls I was a slut and an unfit Mother, all lies. Im sure if you leave, the one that leaves is punished to the grave. Like you I did everything I could to try to compensate, and when I remarried, my new husband and I wer e s o good to them, lavishing love, gifts, everything on them. Looking back, they took everything, and gave nothing, but i was so guilt ridden,[falsely ,} for so long, I turned myself into human Pretzel for these girls, and let them walk all over me. Big mistake.Now I know for sure they are both spaths, not sure if my ex is one, or just an alky. Love, and Hugs, gem.XX
I’m sorry that the two of you have been hurt and continue to h urt in this way. I’m sure it’s very painful.
Conomo, You said you were a good mother. Not perfect, but good. None of us has ever been perfect. I look back and wish I had done some things differently. I think We’d hardley be human if we didn’t.
Gem, I owe you an apology. I felt angry at you, the other night for trying to convert your new “children” to Chritianity. I was critical and opinionated, and it’s really none of my business. I’m sorry. Guess my burned skin felt burned.
I felt bad and gave myself a time out to think about what was really going on with me. Now I know I need to say I’m sorry.
Dear Conomo, Kim and Gem,
Sure it hurts when we are separated from our kids for ANY reason.
Gem, you said “I’m not sure if he was “just an alky”—since your daughters especially the ONE that you went NC with is a thief, etc. and so on, I have a suspicion that her biological father was/is a psychopath AND an alky since she seems to have “inherited the gene” as well as some environment from him. “Leaving your kids” at that age with even a bad parent as long as he was not BEATING or RAPING them is not a bad thing, Gem, they could have left if they wanted to and gone out on their own. So QUIT WITH THE GUILT, OKAY!!!! LOL
We are all raw sometimes and have “tender spots” that when someone “touches” us there HURT, but there is no intention to hurt, it just IS painful. Since we can’t “see” each other,, we have to presume (as donna asks us to) that people’s intentions are honest and kind.
Conomo and Gem, There are things I would have done differently with my kids as well, and it hurt when my non-P son lied to me, and I asked him to move out of my home. MY house, MY rules!=NO lies if you want to live here. NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA, ABSOLUTELY NONE!!! Just about anything else is negotiable but NOT LYING. Sure, it hurt, but you know, I had a 45 day or so melt down, (mostly, I think, because it caught me off guard) but I am doing just FINE now.
Because once you set a boundary, MAKE A DECISION FINAL, then you can adjust to the way things ARE, rather than continually beat the crap out of yourself because of how you WANT IT TO BE.
Accepting what IS TRUE, what IS the situation, is sometimes painful, but what other choice do we have? Continue to live in fantasy land? Keep feeling bad because we don’t have the ideal circumstances we want? Keep feeling like a victim? None of those are acceptable to me, so I am going to make myself accept what IS and work on changing the things I can change, and God Grant me the wisdom to know the difference.
jelltogether,
“You know what else I learned”within days of him coming back into my life I was nervous, I was constantly worrying whether he would call, where was he, etc. In other words, I was constantly tense. Is that a good way to live”“NO!! When he wasn’t in my life, I was relaxed and happier. What a lesson to realize. I actually was happy and relaxed and not a crazy person!!!”
Yes, yes and yes! I did the whole nine yards of letting go, then letting him back in, having my heart ripped out again and so on. I. too, was so happy when he was gone. I was the ONLY person who was excited when he went to jail, even if for a few days because I had PEACE. I had a calm house again and I liked it! I also found that I was far more productive as well. I had much more interest in life, my kids and my job. In time, I learned as you did, not to believe a word he said. Those who know my ex, REALLY know him, say that you know he’s lying just by the fact that he’s talking. And it’s so true. And guess what? He’s still doing it today, just not to me. Someone sent me a link to him on a dating site. He clearly states that he had to let go of his past partner(me) due to me being mean and dishonest. Gee, wonder how many bites he’ll get with that one? I laughed out loud at that!
Ox, I love everything you’re saying. Once I made that choice, once I started setting boundaries, he was toast. It was almost like walking into a new version of myself. I didn’t care what he did, who he did it with, where he was, NOTHING. All I cared about was that he was gone and that I wasn’t paying for him to be on this earth anymore. It’s a wonderful feeling when we finally get there! And yes, we have to clean up a lot of wreckage, but I can’t ever see myself going back to that again. I LIKE where I’m at today! I am working hard on me and learning every day. It’s not always a cake-walk but that’s OK too. It beats where I was!
Accepting that this wasn’t a real relationship and never had been was a process I think I went through, adding up the bits and pieces and my ex dropped his mask LONG AGO around me. I don’t beat myself up anymore for not seeing him for what he really was. He taught me a very valuable lesson that there are really those who are SO GOOD at lying, they create a whole person where in fact there is none. What used to really get me angry was when he was truly what he was around me and then would turn around and charm the pants off everyone around me. THAT ended as well, when one by one, he stole or lied to everyone around us. Today, he is getting ready to go to the other side of this country and that’s just fine with me! NC is still in place and will stay there.
Wow…Thank you MomaGem, Kim and Oxy for your compassion!!!
Kim I’m proud of you! Seems weird to say that since I really don’t know you, but I felt admiration and pride welling up in me when I read your apology to Gem. Honesty is so healing, but can be difficult to face truths. Well done!
Oxy thanks for the reminder of the serenity prayer that and Footprints have sustained me many times over the years. This is a particularly hard time of year for me. My son will be 18 on the 18th. He was born on Easter Sunday. So my Easter’s without my kids are a huge trigger for meltdowns.
MomaGem…I feel your love and I am so sorry I misunderstood your genuine interest in my situation. I should know better you of all people would know the guilt and shameful feelings that go through my head and make me beat myself up. You would never intentionally try to hurt me. I think what happened is what is known as a clusterf*k (forgive me it just seemed like the most appropriate word).
Love and hugs to you all.
Dear Conomo,
Looking back at my parenting I would do things somewhat different NOW, but you know what, there is 20/20 hindsight and NONE of us really know how to parent until we get some practice. I was an only child and had a poor example for the most part, so I did a lot of things different but I DO KNOW FOR A FACT, I DID THE BEST I COULD WITH THE KNOWLEDGE I HAD and I had the BEST of intentions (and maybe I paved the road to hell with them) but in the meantime, I am not goingn to go back and cry over “spilled milk.”
A couple of years ago, after my son C left his home (after his wife tried to kill him) I communicated with him by e mail and phone for the 18 months he was gone and I felt at that time that we had a “good and honest” relationship….and maybe at that time we DID. I know it was HONEST ON MY PART. I wrote him a LONG e mail that told him everything I could think of that I had “done wrong’ when he was growing up and I took all his pain onto my own shoulders for my mistakes. But you know, I realize now, he may not have had a perfect parent, but I was NO MONSTER. I did a pretty good job all told, I devoted a GREAT DEAL of energy and love and care and thinking about my parenting. Sure I lost my temper sometimes, or was frustrated (he was ADHD) but I gave it my best shot. If he wants to BLAME me for not being perfect, and blame me because HE IS A LIAR and HE GETS HIMSELF into a poverty situation because HE doesn’t spend his money wisely, well, you know, that is HIS PROBLEM, NOT MINE!
He can get INTO PROBLEMS and he can GET HIMSELF out of them now, he’s 40 years old for goodness sakes and I am not going to allow or advocate for BAD behavior on his part, and I will no longer allow him to HURT ME. If I have NO expectations that he is truthful, I will NOT be hurt if he lies. DUH! He has SHOWN me he will lie to me, I BELIEVE he will lie to me,, because he HAS LIED TO ME.
A philosopher once said (can’t remember who) “It doesn’t upset me that you lied to me, it upsets me because I can never believe you again.”
Well, that being said, I will no longer ALLOW him to hurt me, or him being OUT of my “circle of people I can trust”—it was HIS CHOICE not mine. I set the boundary and he stepped over it. NOW I KNOW. “The truth will set you free, but it will pith you off first”
Don’t keep grieving over things you cannot change (and belive me here I have GRIEVED a lot over things I couldn’t change) but I am working every day to STOP THAT CRAP! To get REAL and get ON with life! a GOOD LIFE! (((Hugs))))
Oxy, I’ve read that quote just recently. It must be in either the Betrayal Bond or Sociopath Next Door.
In context to parenting: It doesn’t upset me that you weren’t a perfect parent, it upsets me because you don’t admit you weren’t a perfect parent.
I applaud you for sharing your mistakes with your son, you didn’t deserve for him to then use it as ammunition against you.
I have often kept myself from sharing adversity or mistakes from my family because I know it will come back to bite me somehow. Either in lectures or I told you so’s or to justify their behaviours when all I really needed was some empathy and a hug.
My mom has admitted to some mistakes along the way and I really appreciate that. It helps me grow. What baffles me is why she won’t admit some things happened when I clearly remember and I was only 6 or 7 years old. I don’t want her to remember to blame her I just want her to understand that these events have affected our behaviour patterns and I feel talking about them openly will help with healing and growth.
But as you said I guess I am not going to change it at this stage of the game and I can still heal and grow.
I don’t know if I can ever completely let go of the anger I hold against my ExH for using my children as pawns in his war against me. His emotional blackmail and demands for loyalty to one parent only have caused my children to have betrayal bonds with him and they don’t even have a clue.
I know I shouldn’t assume responsibility for that, but I often do. I am a work in progress!!! (((hugs)))
Where’s Erin1972?
I had another root canal today and then came home and FINALLY got motivated to straighten up and reorganize my messy house. It got really bad in the last two weeks when my stomach was acting up.
Anyway…I went to a therapist at my counties mental health clinic today. I didn’t expect the woman to understand about relational harm from a sociopath. But, I really made an appt to see an MD, which is next week…to see what she says about me not sleeping well at night…hot flashes..anxiety?
Anyway, I talked to this therapist about what happenned, how I got involved with the x two years ago on the job…and how fast he came on…and gave her an overview of the whole mess.
She asked me why I was still “thinking” of him. I told her that I was only broken up with him a month and a half…and that I had to go through the stages of ending the r/s…and right now, I’m sortof sad…but want to move on and just can’t get motivated to do anything.
She said…”why would you even want him in your life…as a friend?” when I told her I missed the “friendship”. She said…”a friend doesn’t lie to you”. Period …the end.
Hmmm…So she asked me what my new goals are in life? I told her that the most important goal I have is my HEALTH..I want to lose a lot of weight and get into shape. I don’t know if I should go to the gym…I have a membership with or join one closer than 20 min away…or just do it by walking around my lake…at home…treadmill..??
She said…I want you to keep a food journal and after you drop your last daughter off at school…try going straight to the gym you belong to first. (The x goes there too…but not during the day)…even if you only stay one hour a day three times a week.
It was a good suggestion to get me out of the house..where I get NOTHING done anyway…because I get overwhelmed and don’t know where to start!
I told her that my self esteem isn’t good and controlling what I eat and seeing progress…weight loss..would help a WHOLE lot!
She gave me this look…like a “matter of fact” look when I told her that it was devastating to realize that he was a liar..
And, she said..”you felt it all along and it was good that you were finally able to make a break, which shows strength”.
She said..
“Now you know the red flags…and next time you will know not to get involved.” I told her that my self esteem was very low and I was so vulnerable at the time.
So, she said THAT is what we will work on.
Somehow…I started to think…that I have to get my house back in order…and get organized and start to REALLY take care of myself and not just talk about it.
So, I came home and started the “project” and I got a lot done. (taking a break now).
Today it feels like someone died and that I have to finally accept it…and start to live again. I feel “lumpy” …but, its weird…feels like after my mom died and I just had no choice but to carry on.
I also realized that it really isn’t HIM that I miss…its having a relationship…and I guess I wonder if I’ll ever meet another man to get involved with.
ACCEPTANCE…today. Big time. This is where I’m at…and I have to start fresh. So, back to getting organized. …
I hope you’re ok Erin! Let me know.
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Hi Erin! Glad to hear from you. I know you are working alot and probably exhausted. Are you ok?