Lovefraud recently received the following letter from a reader whom we’ll call “Cassandra.” My reply follows the letter.
I don’t even know where to begin but I’ll try and make it short. Won’t be sweet though.
I am a long time advocate of Lovefraud. I was a victim of a psychopath over 7 years ago. I was with him for 5 years, we had a house together, dogs, like a married couple. Finally a girl confronted me and told me he was living a double life, as well as having sex with both men and women. And I was not shocked. Just angry at myself for not facing the truth for so long. I ended the relationship. He tried to get me back. I got a restraining order. To this day he still tries to email and call me every few months. I’ve accepted that I will have to deal with that for the rest of my life.
Fast forward to now. It has been 3 years since I have even considered dating, or even touching a man. I am a brilliant career woman. I am successful, make decent money ”¦ and live totally alone. I am scared of men, afraid to date, but am getting tired of not having any male companionship. So, for the first time in 3 years since I was with the psychopath, I went out on a date. First time.
It was an incredible date. Gorgeous guy, even though he looked like a computer nerd. Glasses, Jewish, intellectual, shy, artistic and unfortunately the kind of man I crave. Incredible connection, incredible sex, and I was the one in fact telling him that we needed to take this slower. Except ”¦ he knew exactly what to do. Constant texts, wanting to see me immediately the next day, insisting that he wanted a relationship with me and then changing his tune an hour later saying he wasn’t sure, etc.
At first, I was disgusted and knew I didn’t need any of this crap. I called him on the bluff and told him let’s just back off. 24 hours later, I was the one wondering what he was doing and where he was. He would say “I’m going to see you this afternoon,” and then he wouldn’t show. I would get a text at 10 pm saying his brother was in the hospital and perhaps I am available “tomorrow?” I would fret and stress, wondering if my own paranoia was keeping me trusting this individual, and that this certainly couldn’t happen to me two times in a row that I would date a psychopath. So I gave him the benefit of the doubt and said sure. The next day he did not show. He texted again saying something came up but he’d love to see me that night. With false hope, I agreed but didn’t bet on it.
That night, I was more anxious and worried than ever before. I sat there on my couch, the house all cleaned, the fire going, a perfect romantic atmosphere. I sat there, and 9 pm came and went. I called and texted “Are you on your way?” No response. At 10 pm I turned off the music, the lights, and found myself just staring at the fireplace. I was in what I call a shock of realization.
I turned off the lights, went to bed, lay there until 2 am. At some point I just broke and cried.
Donna, I wasn’t even looking for this. I was not even looking for someone to suddenly “love” me. I just wanted to meet someone who would appreciate who I was on the inside, without being impressed by my career. I just wanted a night just one night of being with a man and having good conversation, good talk, and affection. And that one person that I reached out to after years and years of not dating due to being with a psychopath ”¦ turned out to be another one.
I woke up this morning with my eyes hurting from crying and just drained, as if I have been up for weeks without any sleep. I got up, did coffee, lay on the couch and suddenly broke down and sobbed again. And I can’t help but sob to myself, even though I know I shouldn’t ”¦ that “I’m so stupid.” I am so stupid. I am so stupid. I absolutely hate myself right now, and I hate that I am talented. I hate that I am successful. I hate that I am pretty. I hate that I am a target. I hate that I can’t relate to anyone with the lonely road I take with work. I hate that I am not understood. And most especially, I hate that a psychopath got me the minute I snuck out of my hole after three years.
Now I’m back in the hole. Feeling stupid. Feeling more alone than before. And more hopeless than before. And that I gave all my built up talent and energy to a stranger that got drunk off it, and is doing god knows what with it right now to someone else.
I hope to get over this again as well, but I can’t stop crying and I can’t stop staring at the floor and just whispering, I’m so stupid.
Am I destined to be alone? Working career woman, never being appreciated for who she is on the inside and only being admired on the outside? That means nothing to me. And the minute that I show my true self ”¦ it’s a psychopath that eats it up. Why am I here on this planet if this is always going to be the case?
Dear Cassandra,
I am so very sorry that, on the very first time you looked for companionship again, you ran into another psychopath. It is so painful. I know exactly how you feel, because I’ve been there, or at least someplace similar. It really hurts.
You demand of yourself, the universe or whatever higher power you believe in, “Why me? What did I do wrong? Why did this happen again? How long will this go on? Haven’t I paid enough? Am I destined to remain alone and unloved for the rest of my life? Why can’t I catch a break? When will it be over?
I’d like to offer a different perspective of your most recent experience: I think you’re making progress.
Here is what has happened: You were ready to take the next step in your healing. And that step was to access, and excavate, the residual pain still buried within you from your first psychopathic ex. Or, perhaps there was an incident of betrayal the even predates that first relationship maybe something from your family of origin, or a relationship from your youth. Whatever it was, you were still walking around with negative energy within you, and it was time for the energy to come out.
The universe has a funny way of helping us release our pain: It gives us more pain. It presents us with an opportunity to get our hopes up, believe magic will come, and then it all comes crashing down. With that, the thin dam that was holding back the residual pain bursts, and all we can do is cry.
That’s exactly what you did. You broke down and sobbed.
If you were to look at this incident from a “rational” standpoint, you’d wonder why you reacted so badly. After all, you didn’t spend much time with the guy. He was a jerk pretty much from the beginning, so it’s not like you had a lot invested.
So why did it hurt so badly? Because of all your old pain, the disappointment from the past that you’re still carrying around. Because you so wanted a change.
Here’s my advice: Roll with it. Allow yourself to feel the pain, disappointment and betrayal. Honor the experience. You’re cleaning out the old wounds—and once you do, you’ll be in a much better place to attract a new relationship.
As the negative emotions dissipate, replace them with joy. Notice joy wherever you can perhaps in a lovely view, the affection of a pet, a checkout clerk who’s nice to you. Then, feel gratitude for the moment of joy.
Eventually, if you keep going, the balance will shift. You’ll feel less pain and more joy. And then you’ll be ready for a wonderful new relationship.
I promise you, this is not a setback. It is a step in your healing.
Hi kim frederick !!! I’m popping in and out and hope to catch up with lovefraud again, find out what everyone is saying, as this psychopath thing evolves out there. There is a film coming along called 7 psychopaths…it looks like a comedy, but I won’t be laughing! Colin farrell is in it, guess you guys have probably seen it already.
Kim, getting your hug and greeting tonight meant alot…hey, thanks! You are sounding strong and expressing yourself as ever! I am okay…5 years on, still very suspicious of men, especially the ones I find attractive. I’m dealing with Family stuff at the moment and recognising alot of traits there and pulling well back. I’m not doing the traditional Family christmas, I’ll be on my own. I’m feeling strong however and less stressed now…..onward and upward! I am ten times less tolerant of emotional blackmail, gaslighting and manipulation….one day I may meet someone decent, but for now…on my own and happy
Great to read these posts again, so much sense..so little time!!
Dear Cassandra,
When I read your post, I actually thought of how SMART you were to find him out! …You DID see the signs..you did the right thing by first kindly giving the chance because it might have been that the excuses were real…but you saw how it was a pattern right off the bat…..good for you that you recognized and smelled the rat out….It could have been far, far worse…
.Hey, even in any normal dating, woman go through all types of men that are not sociopaths but just not our type ….men with the brain the size of a walnut …men with the big brawn but the IQ of 32 …..men with mother hangups …men who are just not interesting ..and not interested in our thing….men who just ain’t got that zing….but as we venture forth we must realize that we are now equipped with the armor….that we have the stuff now to smell out the sp’s….AND you did!! or you’d be worse off…..
I too have been reading here for about 6 years and non stop reading the books Donna offers here on this site. Try to read The Betrayal Bond….that sure helped me!!!!! All my love and you brush yourself off and perk up…..dry those tears….like Donna said go out and spread your wonderful heart to the kindly people around you….Trust me…..you will heal further….you are not damaged….you are in healing…..AND there are wonderful men out there….try reading the book The Law of Attraction….it helps to think really positive….you can make the list of qualities you would like in a real good man….list your boundaries….and have FAITH….”the assured expectations of things hoped for.”…HUGSS (((((((((()))))))))))))
Myowngirl,
THANK YOU! It is wonderful to hear about your recovery and that you flourish in a new life.
Slim
myowngirl:
Hooray!! 🙂
What a loser. This man is a no good stupid turkey and does not deserve your tears. Thank God you got out so fast. No man is worth that kind of pain.
I did not date for years after the psychopath either. I had no desire to ever date or get married again. All I wanted was peace. I had children and they filled my life.
Finally a good married friend took me out to a singles bar where we met some men in town for a plumbers convention. Nothing against plumbers, but we still laugh about it 40 years later.
The next date was a fix-up by the same friend who could not stand to see me without a man. :0. I needed a man like a fish needs a bicycle. He had a PhD in sexology and took me home to see his library…literally. OMG, thought I would never date again.
Next blind date was so boring we were both ready to go home before dinner…and not for sex, just to get rid of each other.
Finally I met some single women and started going out with them. Sometimes we met men, sometimes we did not. I started to enjoy the flirting and chasing with no strings attached.
After that I had a few relationships some better than others but not abusive. I was actually “in love” with some of them but knew it was not forever. It was a wonderful time in my life. Some hurts some tears but no one was ever going to be “that” important to me again.
Eight years later another blind date set up by the same friend. I heard about him for years before he called and he about me also. Neither of us were excited about another blind date. But we went and had a nice time. Right after the date I went on vacation for two weeks and did not think much about him. When I got home he had been calling and we went out again. Third date and he never went home. We have now been married for thirty years.
It was a simple wedding where he married me and my two children at our home. We lived together before we took the leap. He has been a wonderful father and husband with only normal difficulties.
Finally I am safe. But that old fear and pain still pops up and I even get afraid of him when he triggers old stuff; it is a miracle that he tries to understand and still loves me.
Today I sobbed like a baby for an hour as he drove me home from my sister’s house. My sister has terminal cancer, my daughter is her caretaker and almost completely ignores me and will not let me see the grand children The old pain of childhood, the psychopath, the lingering pain from the psychopath taking away my daughter, the more recent pain of my daughter taking away my my grandchildren, the new pain of my sister’s imminent death and the attempted balancing act to maintain my sanity is almost mote than I can bear.
There is a song that says “The tears are the healing” I pray it is true. Right now I feel like the pain will kill me. I used to cover my pain with anger or haughtiness. I have none left and fear I will not survive without them. It seems strange to have had a happy ending only to end up back it boiling water that is worse than the psychopath…the psychopath using my daughter to hurt me. I just want to be vaporized.
I am old, I am tired, I am weak, I am worn. My fight is over. The pain will either kill me or heal me.
In my (no doubt inflated) opinion, that post from DLD1965 deserved to be FRAMED. Why? Simply because so many posts here can’t help but describe ABNORMAL behavior from psychopathic and other dysfunctional partners. But this one refers to NORMAL behavior.
Learning to recognize abnormal behavior is one thing, important as it is; but how is anyone to link up with NORMAL people and build a NORMAL life if all they know is ABNORMAL behavior and don’t know what “normal” looks like?
What grabbed me especially was this description of would-be suitors texting people “all day long.” It’s a behavior I’ve heard about time and time again—from undesirable partners, that is. And I agree with DLD1965; it’s just NOT NORMAL!
All right, I must make some concessions. First of all, I admit to being an “old codger” (read “over 30”) who was born before the days when cellphones and texting became a normal part of everyone’s life, from the teens on up. Constant texting is not a habit I grew up with, unlike today’s “Generation Z” or whatever letter they’re calling themselves now.
Second, in spite of that, I do “dig” this texting business between love partners. I can’t help recalling for instance an occasion more than a dozen years ago when I was working in Copenhagen for several weeks at a time. One Saturday night, having nothing special to do and looking to entertain myself, I visited the famous Tivoli Gardens and there was a rollercoaster. Having a cellphone at the time (they were just becoming more widespread), I called up my wife in the U.S. “Hey, wanna come for a rollercoaster ride?” She couldn’t be with me in person, of course, but we could still do the next best thing. We could IMAGINE being together! We could still be together “in spirit.” As the ride began, I gave her a running commentary over the cellphone of what I was seeing and experiencing as the ride progressed. It was fun!
My one regret was that I couldn’t give her a visual impression of the ride at the time, only a verbal description of it. However, I was in possession of a video camera with which I was simultaneously taking pictures of the ride. My wife just had to wait until I got home a week or two later to see the pictures, that’s all.
That much is completely “normal” behavior, in my view. Now I do confess to being a romantic (despite any cynicism I may have expressed here on one subject or another), so I don’t suppose every man (or woman) is like me. I’m just saying that keeping contact over the phone is normal enough in itself. However, I do point out that this was a Saturday night, and it’s not as if I was constantly texting or phoning during other times when I was occupied with business matters!
Finally I have to make some allowance for those wonderfully heady moments when we’re first “in love” with someone, intensely excited about the person, and they occupy so much of our attention. In the beginning, anyway. Yes, I can see how a lot of texting might go on, in the beginning.
But not all the time, surely? That’s where I come back to that sentence: “The guys I date now don’t text me all day long. And you know why? Because they have jobs and outside interests.” Absolutely! It’s no reflection whatsoever on the lady (in this case) if the guy isn’t texting her—or even thinking about her—“constantly,” because he’s got too many other things to do. Normal men, good providers, have JOBS! And there’s nothing “wrong” with that.
That’s NORMAL! And “NORMAL” behavior is the precursor to a “normal,” healthy relationship!
betsybugs:
I am without words. I feel sad for you right now. Dealing with terminal cancer with a close family member is really hard. I went through it so I know. It does bring up all the feelings from our whole lives and all the crazy family dynamics. I’m sorry. 🙁
I don’t understand how this guy was a sociopath or psychopath. I am hoping someone can explain it to me.
Hugs to Cassandra. I encourage you to say, “I am human, instead of I am stupid.” Just keep breathing. I believe you handled the recent situation quickly, and that’s great. I agree with a lot of the affirmations spelled out in these comments. We’re all here for the lessons. And love and forgiveness. It must begin with ourselves. Feel the pain. Every single time it comes up. One of my favorite expressions is, “When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.”
Many blessings of love to you all,
Elizabeth
Afganexwife, “sociiopath” and “psychopath” are many times used to mean the same thing. There are tons of articles here on Love Fraud to educate you on the kind of people they are, so no use in me “rewriting” everything again.
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