Lovefraud recently received an e-mail from a reader telling us about discussion on another Internet forum called PsychForums. Here’s what he wrote:
Found an interesting set of postings. On PsychForums. “Craving for Antisocial Behavior.” With postings between four psychopaths. Arguing for various positions With general agreement that society has infringed on them. And so deserves the revenge. Sounding like people are viewed similarly to enemy combatants. And deserve what they get.
Alternate view is that people’s revulsion against psychopaths is understandable. That people don’t want bad things to happen to them. So don’t be a fool and don’t get caught or cry unfair. There are plenty of ways to enjoy life without having to risk jail to get it.
Seems to sum up the psychopath side of the story fairly well.
If you want to know how these psychopaths think, read their discussion:
PsychForums: “Craving for Antisocial Behavior”
WOW.. that blog was eye-opening to say the least! You don’t usually hear such honesty from people like that. The most shocking part is they way they all feel alienated from society and like they should either take advantage of or punish “moral” people.
My ex-bf has been battling kidney disease his whole life, and I know he sometimes feels like “getting even” with the healthy people who don’t have to deal with it. Makes no sense I know.. but there it is.
I hope I am not too late to post this comment as I see there is already a new post above it.
For all those healthy people or those recovering from contact with a psychopath / sociopath:
Be very careful on the psychforums site.
Though there are healthy people who go on there seeking information and help, it is also a nest of the most vile creatures you are ever going to deal with – especially the narcissistic personality, anti-social, psychotic and borderline boards.
I know because a while back I used that site to get information and help in getting rid of a narcissist. I made the mistake though of hanging around and getting into tangles with the narcissists on the board – probably as a proxy to not having properly ended it with the real narcissist even though that person was no longer in my life.
Moderation is also a problem. They are NOT professionals, and could even be disordered themselves. You never know.
Again – be very very careful on psychforums.com.
Hi ian in hamburg: Thanks for the warning. I know for myself there are anti-socials in all walks of life as well as humble people in these same positions. It’s a crap shoot, for sure, figuring out who you are dealing with at every turn through life.
I was very lucky to talk with a compassionate counselor when I first learned of my EX. This woman gets the highest ratings from me if we can rank therapists we come across in life.
Personally, I see two major reasons why therapist go into their field.
The first is the positive desire to want to help people.
The second is negative anti-socials wanting to figure themselves out, then continuing in the field to manipulate others with the knowledge they learned.
I’m sure there is reasons three, four, five etc.
It’s figuring out who is working from a humble perspective versus who is working from their egos. Paying attention to RED flags when they go off.
Peace.
Stormee,
To answer your question about them being “compelled” to brag about stuff. I THINK SO. At least my P-son seemed like that he WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW he was a “Billy Bad Ass” and he got off on getting away with stuff AND PEOPLE KNOWING.
He has a special hatred for me, because I “won” a few of his games when he was a teenager, and I actually called the cops and turned him in when I caught him with some stolen merchandise. Heck, that was 20+ years ago and he is STILL FRIED about that!
If they did crimes SECRETLY (which some of them do) who would know what a “Billy Bad Ass” they are? I think having others KNOW is a BIG PART of the THRILL for SOME of them. Not all. Ted Bundy was a SECRET killer, John Wayne Gayce (spelling on that name?) was a SECRET killer, but others like BTK killer wrote notes to the cops in their GAMES of violence. It was “better” if they “took credit” for it.
I couldn’t read much on the link, it got too sickening pretty quick. It was like PORNO, it was so degrading.
Thanks for the link, Donna. Sheesh!
Oxy: The bragging they do … is because they don’t walk a righteous path. Think about it. If you take a righteous path, what’s the first thing you are going to do? The work.
You do the work first, learn how the work is done because you are doing it.
Learn the wisdom how its done.
Reap the rewards for completing the work.
What are some of the rewards?
Knowledge of how to do the work.
Building a firm foundation in who you are (so you can stay humble in the knowledge you did the work … here’s the part that “they” dont’ know, staying humble …so they brag).
It’s all the same … all the same, day in, day out, their names are changed, sexes are changed, stories are simiiar, but they are all the same.
Peace.
I remember a riddle I read in Farmer’s Almanac growing up (bear with me, I’m going somewhere with this): 3 guys went to an Inn and got a room for $30. Each one contributed $10 for the room. As they were on their way up to the room, the Innkeeper realized he had over charged them $5. So he gave the bellboy (is that the right word?) $5 to take back to the 3 men. But on the way up there, the bellboy realized that the men had forgotten to tip him. So he kept $2 for himself and gave them back $3. Each man got $1 back, which meant they each contributed $9. However, 3 X $9 is $27. If you add on the $2 that the bellboy took, that makes only $29. What happened to the other dollar?
We spent weeks and weeks trying to figure it out before we looked up the answer. Turns out there was no answer because it was an “illogical silliloquy” (I think that was the term).
This is how I feel every time I try to make sense of the relationship with the ex. It just doesn’t make sense. I keep hitting brick walls. The whole relationship began and ended with lies.
StarG: That’s the $1.00 answer. You GOT IT.
Peace.
Totally unbelievable!!
Will of course need time to read and see what I am really reading. Pathological liars tend to distort all concept of fantasy and reality and then one doesn’t really see what is “behind” the text. These writers are proud for what they wish to “convince” others as to how they feel understand and comprehend…
1 Timothy 3:6
“Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.”
James: At least none of us are stuck thinking inside the box about them. It could be worse.
Peace.
Good post on 1 Timothy 3:6
I felt physically ill when I read their twisted words. I couldn’t read through to the end because I simply felt too sick. Maybe my own pain is still too new and raw but I feel like I have no emotional defences against these beasts except for my now extreme wariness in letting ANYONE get close to me.
When I hear about these monsters I feel an almost overwhelming rage and intense frustration because I cannot wipe them from the face of the Earth. There are times when I wish I didn’t know about them – I wish I could take a break from knowing “people” like them are out there, blithely maiming and destroying lives.