Lovefraud recently received the following e-mail from a reader who we’ll call Carla:
Can you help me with co-parenting with a sociopath? Divorced three months ago, after a two-year fight for my rights. He is not complying as you know.
I am going crazy with the way he only shows his wonderful, smooth qualities to the children. I have three boys. I can’t stand sending them on weekends to a man who never calls them for two weeks and then lavishes them with charm and gifts. It makes me sick that I am struggling because he has not released even one of 26 accounts to me as decreed in the divorce settlement. He pays my bills and deducts them from the alimony. He follows the agreement under his own conditions and it confuses the attorneys. He won’t discuss the children with me or offer any assistance to them as a father. He is 100 percent focused on his new victim, his girlfriend, a new young, widow. Spending all the money he hid on her. But the kids have “buddy” to whisk them from one expensive activity to another while I am struggling to pay the bills.
I have greater anxiety now than when we were married. He openly emotionally abuses me. Before it was more covert and I got immune to the invalidation and blame. NOW I am discarded since I chose not to play by his rules of cheating, drugs, gambling, lying, withholding sex. He isn’t nice to me at all. Cruel. It was easier being married. He did all these things and he kept me blinded by being secretive and giving me a high-income surgeon’s wife lifestyle. I know the secrets now along with my attorney but he looks perfect in the community.
I miss the financial security and vacations. Now someone else shares those things with him and all I did was give him three beautiful children to brag about and add to his narcissism.
I say terrible things about him to the two older children, ages 6 and 13. I tell them how he is not following the agreement, lying and spending money on drugs and women.
Is so frustrating. I see what is real but no one else does. I am afraid my children are going to prefer him (and his girlfriend) because he is so charming and generous and I know he is pathological and I can’t give them the expensive gifts and ultra stimulating activities.
How do you deal with the frustration that you are the only person who knows someone is a sociopath? I had to live 15 years with him to figure it out and go through four therapists until the last one nailed him as anti-social/schizoid personality disordered. Then I validated her “diagnosis” with Lovefraud. He has all the signs with a very high IQ and status of a medical professional to hide behind. Will anyone else ever figure it out? I don’t believe that what comes around goes around when it comes to a sociopath as intellectually clever as my ex-husband. I do have a few very perspective people who picked up on it. I don’t think my kids will ever see it and I think he will destroy me even post-divorce. Why is he so relentless? He has his freedom and his money. Why not leave me alone? Is it because I get one-third of his income in alimony?
After the divorce
Probably the most shocking thing about divorcing a sociopath is that even when it’s over, it’s not over. The attorneys have argued, the court has ruled, this is how it’s going to be—and it’s not. The sociopath doesn’t comply, twists things the way he or she wants them, uses children against the other parent, and no one seems to care.
This leaves the non-sociopathic partner—like Carla—angry with the sociopath, frustrated that he’s getting away with his lies and manipulation, and upset that he won’t do what he’s supposed to do, baffled that no one else sees the truth—all while still mourning the life she thought she had. Carla wants her ex to pay her what he’s supposed to and be a dad to their children. He’s not doing either, so she wants other people to know that behind his charming, successful veneer, he’s vile.
It’s a toxic brew of emotions. But the emotions will never affect the sociopath. They will only affect Carla, and possibly her children.
It seems to me that Carla needs to be able to separate what’s going on into four categories: financial considerations, the children, dealing with the ex and her emotional recovery.
First of all, Carla needs to get her financial situation straightened out. If her ex is supposed to give her 26 accounts, she needs to get that enforced—soon, before the accounts are empty. I hope her attorneys put a time limit on when these accounts are supposed to be turned over, and specified exactly how much money she is supposed to receive. If not, she is in trouble.
Carla cannot allow her ex-husband to pay her bills. By letting him do this, she is allowing him to control her. He is deducting the money from her alimony? He is probably exaggerating the amount of the bills just to pay her less. Plus, he may decide to stop paying the bills, and she would never know it—until the cable service or electric is turned off. Carla must demand that she receive the full alimony, then get her bills in her own name.
Carla did not mention a house and mortgage. If the sociopath’s name is on the house or mortgage, that is a disaster waiting to happen. He may stop paying the mortgage and allow the house to slip into foreclosure. He wouldn’t care, but Carla would have no place to live.
Carla complained that her ex won’t discuss the children with her and won’t offer any assistance as a father. He doesn’t call them during the week and only wants to play with them on his weekends. I’d recommend that Carla use this to her advantage.
Here is the bottom line: Sociopaths are terrible parents. At best, they view children as prized possession. At worst, they actively try to corrupt the children. Therefore, the less interaction a sociopath has with his or her children, the better.
Carla should actually be grateful that her ex is staying out of their children’s lives as much as he is. She should use her time with the children to shower them with love, nurture them and provide them with healthy guidance. None of that will happen when the boys are with their father. The kids will eventually sense that there is no real bond with the father. As time goes on, they may also witness him moving from girlfriend to girlfriend, and eventually start rolling their eyes at yet another one.
Carla needs to be their rock of stability. She also needs to stop badmouthing the father—even if he deserves it. This is important for two reasons. First is the emotional health of the children—they should not feel in the middle of her issues with the ex. Second, she does not want to give her ex the ammunition to come after her with a parental alienation lawsuit, in which she could lose custody of the boys.
Her best plan of action is the stay neutral about the father. One mother’s standard response whenever her children brought home news of the ex was a noncommittal, “That’s nice.”
Kids are smart. Sooner or later, they will realize that the sociopath cares only about himself.
Dealing with the ex
Carla asks, “Why is he so relentless? Why not leave me alone?”
Divorcing a sociopath is not like divorcing a relatively healthy person that you’ve just grown away from. In a normal divorce, mommy and daddy don’t want to be together anymore, but they can cooperate for the sake of the kids. This is not going to happen with a sociopath.
Sociopaths only want three things: Power, control and sex. Carla and the surgeon have divorced, but that doesn’t mean he has given up his desire for power and control.
Carla says her ex-husband is openly abusing her. She must eliminate his opportunities to do this and go No Contact with this man as much as possible. I don’t know if she is allowing him into her home, but she shouldn’t. The child exchange should be arranged to minimize interaction. Any communications regarding the children should be conducted via e-mail. Phone conversations give him opportunities to abuse her.
The key is for Carla to be strictly business. She must recognize that the sociopath will not play nice. He will do everything possible to avoid paying her. He will continue to manipulate her through the children. She must learn not to react when he baits her. She must learn to be calm and collected, yet make him toe the line on his court-ordered obligations.
All of this is pretty raw for Carla right now—the divorce was only three months ago. She is outraged. She is frustrated. Carla misses the status, money, vacations and cozy lifestyle of a surgeon’s wife. She is justifiably angry that he cheated and hid money, and probably still reeling from being devalued and discarded.
Realizing that she’s been in a relationship with a sociopath has probably rocked Carla to the core. Nothing was real. Everything was a lie. And plenty of people in the community still believe the lie. This is a massive shock, and it takes time to come to terms with the magnitude of the deception.
Recovery is a process, and there is a lot of information here on the Lovefraud blog that may help Carla:
- She must realize that the ex is a sociopath, and this is the way he lives his life. Nothing she did or didn’t do would make any difference.
- She must realize that she was targeted, probably because of her good qualities.
- She must allow herself to feel her anger, disappointment, grief and even hatred—and then let it all go.
This will take time, and will probably come in waves—a wave of emotion, followed by a wave of calm. Eventually the emotional periods will be shorter, the calm periods will be longer.
Carla is in for many years of aggravation with this man. She needs to get to a point of equanimity, where his antics no longer affect her. When she gets there, no matter what the guy does, Carla wins.
LL mequon, I understand problem wiith turniing him in and maybe sending him to prison…I have afriend who iis divorceed from a spath and she has 7 kids…found out that her x had taken out forged student loans for her oldest son, when the boy went to take out his student loans for another year her x had forged ALL of the loans so the kid had to drop out and start paying them off. Her x works for the state and would be fired if she exposed him, but…she still has 4 little kids at home to support. Her oldest son is working and helping her support the household and 2 kids are on their own. She’s in the same shape you are. Can’t support kids without his child support. Bad spot to be in.
OMG!! So much the same!! I feel for her. I am looking for another job– then can take care of my son, PLUS do the right thing. I am not going to be held hostage by him.
But I totally get your friend’s position. She has to take care of her children. These guys PICK women who care so much about their kids. She is a good, loving mom.
As much as I hate to suggest this: what about welfare? If you can’t get the better job right now, maybe you can get some state assistance.
I just hate to see a spath get away with anything. I hope that you are able to get these charges to stick before the statute of limitations are up.
We can only do what we are able to. So don’t let it bother you if you can’t. I’m only offering suggestions. Unfortunately, the society we live in values money more than anything else. It’s a spath society.
Jesus said, “be in this world, not of it.”
I’m trying so hard not to be “of this world.” I’m disgusted to have to be in it.
Thanks, Skylar–sounds like things have been very rough for you. I hope they get more peaceful soon.
I do have a job–and welfare wouldn’t work for me. Sounds like I’m like many I see on this blog: was actually living a financially GOOD life–until I discovered it was all built on sand! Oh well–I agree with many who have posted above–I have learned some lessons, as well.
When I went to court yesterday I ended up saying I would give back actual checks (my attorney felt it best so we could just get done), but I can retain all copies!! HA! So I do have some options–just have to think about it. Statute of limitations has some time. I need to be able to warn people I know–who are the people he has gotten as clients!–about him. And will DEFINITELY be turning him in for tax fraud!
This whole thing is like a Lifetime Movie of the Week!
It’s so hard to not be in this world when we have to be here. It disgusts me, too. We have to be going in the opposite direction of everyone else to achieve that goal.
LL meguon, the problem with the tax fraud thing is that unless the taxes defrauded from the government are in the hundreds of thousands of dollars they won’t waste their time on the “little fish.” So hopefully it is a BIG tax fraud and then they will go after his sorry arse.
I do agree though that some counseling for both you and your younger son might be in order, even though you emotionally disconnected from the marriage, I sincerely doubt that the divorce has been “stress free” and II will double bet that your son, especially as a teenager, many need some help emotionally disconnecting from a psychopathic parent.
Hi Ox Drover–thanks for your suggestions!
He’s a CPA–trust me, the fraud is big. Plus, he embezzled, and i have proof of both. I have a background in psych/social work. I truly am not in need of therapy–I have really taken control of this. Once I figured out what was going on!! So trust me–he is going down. This guy SERIOUSLY underestimated me! I have found out I’m a little bit Machiavellian! 🙂 I COULD use a couple of weeks on a beach, though! 🙂
Yes, my son is depressed. But he is not ready to do therapy. He won’t open up to a stranger. I am working on helping him…. He is spending time with friends more often now–glad of that! And we’ve had some nice conversations–not necessarily about his dad. Just trying to have a little fun with him, which seems to help! I am working on getting him to relax enough that he might see a therapist. But it’s not for everyone. In general my son’s personality doesn’t lend itself to the therapeutic process.
I did go through a rough time about 8 years ago. I didn’t understand everything. You know how they can gaslight you! Sometimes I get mad at myself that I didn’t realize it then, but I am SO much more able to deal with this now–I have matured and learned so much, for one thing!
I will keep you posted on my progress!
Dear LL, you sound like a level headed gal and it is kay to be a bit Machiavellian where Ps are concerned. One oof our bloggers here calls it “backspathing” them and she is goood at it! LOL
I hope you do take the arsehole down—down into a federal prison cell would be a good start!
Yes, they do underestimate us sometimes, and I advise you to play your cards close to your chest. I made the mistake of “threatening” mine thinking he would back down…and that wasn’t a good idea. It is best to lie in the grass like a snake and strike when the time is right! That’s another of ErinBrock’s tactics and she’s right. Sharp gal.
Just don’t forget to take care of yourself FIRST–I’m guilty of that from time to time and I am just again starting to recover from a bout of not taking care of myself first.
True Ox Drover–I CAN get a little intense sometimes, and forget about myself. And I can see red quickly and retaliate–good advice to be a little sneaky!! Not my forte, and I’m in a little trouble now because of it!
I hid some pictures in my trunk (why would he even WANT them.,) and he had a key to my car and took them. So I gave him until tomorrow to return them, or I will make a call to his clients. And I do mean it–I am not letting him yank me around! (Guess technically I should have shared. But he was just a fake husband/father. I think he only wants the pics because I do.)
Well, it’s game on, now! LOL! I am the oldest of 10 kids–mother a narcissist ( though not spath)–so now you know how I hooked up with him! 🙂 But he needs to realize–i have had to fight my whole life,. I won’t let him push me around! I was pretty vulnerable to his manipulation. But the mask (and gloves!) are off now. He needs to watch out.
Ox Drover–I just read another blog of yours. Your SON was an spath? The pain must be unbearable! You are incredibly strong and compassionate. You are able to help all of us, considering the blows you have been dealt?
I am so grateful for your strength and wisdom. You know, this whole thing is just amazing. We certainly have experienced the worst of humanity. But we have also been blessed to see the best.
I am thinking of you and drawing strength. Thank you for what you give to all of us.